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From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
To: Pratyush Yadav <pratyush@kernel.org>
Cc: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm: memfd_luo: always dirty all folios
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2026 12:40:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aaldqxw90rdwCt6p@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2vxzv7fabr84.fsf@kernel.org>

On Thu, Mar 05, 2026 at 09:44:27AM +0100, Pratyush Yadav wrote:
> Hi Mike,
> 
> On Wed, Feb 25 2026, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Feb 23, 2026 at 06:39:29PM +0100, Pratyush Yadav wrote:
> [...]
> >> -		if (folio_test_dirty(folio))
> >> -			flags |= MEMFD_LUO_FOLIO_DIRTY;
> >> +		/*
> >> +		 * A dirty folio is one which has been written to. A clean folio
> >> +		 * is its opposite. Since a clean folio does not carry user
> >> +		 * data, it can be freed by page reclaim under memory pressure.
> >> +		 *
> >> +		 * Saving the dirty flag at prepare() time doesn't work since it
> >> +		 * can change later. Saving it at freeze() also won't work
> >> +		 * because the dirty bit is normally synced at unmap and there
> >> +		 * might still be a mapping of the file at freeze().
> >> +		 *
> >> +		 * To see why this is a problem, say a folio is clean at
> >> +		 * preserve, but gets dirtied later. The pfolio flags will mark
> >> +		 * it as clean. After retrieve, the next kernel might try to
> >> +		 * reclaim this folio under memory pressure, losing user data.
> >> +		 *
> >> +		 * Unconditionally mark it dirty to avoid this problem. This
> >> +		 * comes at the cost of making clean folios un-reclaimable after
> >> +		 * live update.
> >> +		 */
> >
> > Can we make the comment here shorter to only contain the gist of the issue?
> 
> Is this any better? Or should I try to make it shorter still?

Yep, thanks! :)

I don't think it can be made shorter without loosing information. What we
might do is to add a larger comment in what state we preserve folios on top
of memfd_luo_preserve_folios() and leave the code inside the function
alone. Can't say I have strong feelings about it.
 
> 	/*
> 	 * Tracking the dirty flag of the folio is difficult since it is
> 	 * normally synced at unmap and there might still be mappings of
> 	 * the file alive.
> 	 *
> 	 * Not tracking it correctly can cause a dirty folio to be
> 	 * restored as clean after KHO. The next kernel might then try
> 	 * to reclaim it, losing user data.
> 	 *
> 	 * Unconditionally mark the folio dirty to avoid this. This
> 	 * comes at the cost of making clean folios un-reclaimable.
> 	 */
> 
> [...]
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> Pratyush Yadav

-- 
Sincerely yours,
Mike.


      reply	other threads:[~2026-03-05 10:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-23 17:39 [PATCH 0/2] mm: memfd_luo: fixes for folio flag preservation Pratyush Yadav
2026-02-23 17:39 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: memfd_luo: always make all folios uptodate Pratyush Yadav
2026-02-25  8:53   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-03-05  8:50     ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-02-23 17:39 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: memfd_luo: always dirty all folios Pratyush Yadav
2026-02-25  8:58   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-03-05  8:44     ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-03-05 10:40       ` Mike Rapoport [this message]

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