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From: Piotr Jaroszynski <pjaroszynski@nvidia.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	 Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	 linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	 John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>,
	 stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arm64: contpte: fix set_access_flags() no-op check for SMMU/ATS faults
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2026 09:16:58 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aahnVXb1IF2yVV5x@box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260304153949.GP972761@nvidia.com>

On Wed, Mar 04, 2026 at 11:39:49AM -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 04, 2026 at 03:01:51PM +0000, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > Good point. For the AF bit, the hardware is not allowed to cache it in
> > the TLB, so we can't get an AF fault for an unrelated VA nearby.
> 
> The way we have read the spec is there is no restriction on what PTE
> the HW accesses when it encounters a CONT group.
> 
> To be concrete, the spec seems to say it is legal to make HW that
> fetches the PTE at the VA, sees the CONT bit, and then always fetches
> the 0th PTE from the group and only uses that for permission checks.
> 
> Therefore SW should never assume that HW will read any particular
> sub-PTE under any scenario.
> 
> It seems current cores don't do this, and it is a bit silly to do, but
> I can imagine an optimizion where the core does a cache line fetch to
> read the PTE so it can freely snap to the PTE at the start of the
> cache line for permission checks. Consolidating permission storage to
> fewer PTEs would reduce atomic memory traffic if the TLB is thrashing.

"The Contiguous bit" section I quoted in the change says this:
 The entry is permitted to be cached in a TLB as though it is one of a
 number of adjacent translation table entries that point to a contiguous
 OA range with consistent attributes and permissions.

 Software is required to ensure that all of the adjacent translation
 table entries for the contiguous region point to a contiguous OA range
 with consistent attributes and permissions.

I think your example is valid as any of the sub-PTEs can be cached.
Another valid example is that first you access addr A and PTE for A gets
cached as the value for the whole 2MB region. Then you access a
different address B within the region and fault based on the cached
attributes. In this case the SMMU never had to read the PTE for B as it
already cached it when accessing A. If the faulting code only read the
PTE for B it can show that e.g. RDONLY was already cleared and hit the
problem again.

In summary, I don't see a way to skip reading and fixing all the
sub-PTEs. And the previous code is already reading all of them so the
fix is not adding any new overhead.

> 
> Jason




  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-04 17:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-03  6:37 Piotr Jaroszynski
2026-03-03  7:19 ` James Houghton
2026-03-03 12:45   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-03 21:40   ` Piotr Jaroszynski
2026-03-03  8:38 ` Ryan Roberts
2026-03-03 18:40   ` Piotr Jaroszynski
2026-03-03 19:12     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-04 12:20       ` Ryan Roberts
2026-03-04 13:44         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-04 11:17 ` Catalin Marinas
2026-03-04 13:43   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-04 15:01     ` Catalin Marinas
2026-03-04 15:39       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-04 17:16         ` Piotr Jaroszynski [this message]
2026-03-04 17:25         ` Catalin Marinas
2026-03-04 17:37 ` Breno Leitao

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