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From: Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>
To: Dennis Zhou <dennis@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>,
	tj@kernel.org, cl@linux.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, zhouchengming@bytedance.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] percpu_ref: call wake_up_all() after percpu_ref_put() completes
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2022 14:28:41 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aad36908-3e95-a8c9-533d-2a39ea76cd3a@bytedance.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yk/OtIKckFprZrGx@fedora>



On 2022/4/8 1:57 PM, Dennis Zhou wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 12:14:54PM +0800, Qi Zheng wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 2022/4/8 12:10 PM, Andrew Morton wrote:
>>> On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 12:06:20 +0800 Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are any users affected by this?  If so, I think a Fixes tag
>>>>>>> is necessary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks all current users(blk_pre_runtime_suspend() and set_in_sync()) are
>>>>>> affected by this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I see that this patch has been merged into the mm tree, can Andrew help
>>>>>> me add the following Fixes tag?
>>>>>
>>>>> Andrew is helpful ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you see reasons why we should backport this into -stable trees?
>>>>> It's 8 years old, so my uninformed guess is "no"?
>>>>
>>>> Hmm, although the commit 490c79a65708 add wake_up_all(), it is no
>>>> problem for the usage at that time, maybe the correct Fixes tag is the
>>>> following:
>>>>
>>>> Fixes: 210f7cdcf088 ("percpu-refcount: support synchronous switch to
>>>> atomic mode.")
>>>>
>>>> But in fact, there is no problem with it, but all current users expect
>>>> the refcount is stable after percpu_ref_switch_to_atomic_sync() returns.
>>>>
>>>> I have no idea as which Fixes tag to add.
>>>
>>> Well the solution to that problem is to add cc:stable and let Greg
>>> figure it out ;)
>>>
>>> The more serious question is "should we backport this".  What is the
>>> end-user-visible impact of the bug?  Do our users need the fix or not?
>>
>> The impact on the current user is that it is possible to miss an opportunity
>> to reach 0 due to the case B in the commit message:
>>
> 
> Did you find this bug through code inspection or was the finding
> motivated by a production incident?

I find this bug through code inspection, because I want to use
percpu_ref_switch_to_atomic_sync()+percpu_ref_is_zero() to do something
similar.

> 
> The usage in block/blk-pm.c looks problematic, but I'm guessing this is
> a really, really hard bug to trigger. You need to have the wake up be

Agree, I manually added the delay in wake_up_all() and percpu_ref_put()
to trigger the case B.

> faster than an atomic decrement. The q_usage_counter allows reinit so it
> skips the __percpu_ref_exit() call.
> 
> Thanks,
> Dennis

-- 
Thanks,
Qi


  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-08  6:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-07 10:33 Qi Zheng
2022-04-07 22:57 ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-08  0:39   ` Dennis Zhou
2022-04-08  1:40   ` Ming Lei
2022-04-08  2:54 ` Muchun Song
2022-04-08  3:50   ` Qi Zheng
2022-04-08  3:54     ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-08  4:06       ` Qi Zheng
2022-04-08  4:10         ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-08  4:14           ` Qi Zheng
2022-04-08  4:16             ` Qi Zheng
2022-04-08  5:57             ` Dennis Zhou
2022-04-08  6:28               ` Qi Zheng [this message]
2022-04-08 17:41 ` Tejun Heo
2022-04-08 19:19   ` Dennis Zhou
2022-04-09  0:40   ` Qi Zheng
2022-04-11  7:19     ` Qi Zheng

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