From: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] smaps: Report correct page sizes with THP
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2026 12:41:43 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aaX2B9Efh0dBed6c@tassilo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <af715d91-6d49-462f-9e9f-3a513ff2ef77@kernel.org>
> Especially after reading 3340289ddf29ca75c3acfb3a6b72f234b2f74d5c I
> ended up with he following conclusion:
>
> "KernelPageSize" tells you in which granularity we can mmap()/munmap()
> etc. Simple.
>
> "MMUPageSize" tells us how this granularity is implemented (or emulated)
> under the hood.
>
> The case we care about is when MMUPageSize < KernelPageSize. A process
> might have to know that detail even when nothing is currently/yet
> faulted in.
>
> Assume a process would perform an atomic that would cross MMUPageSize,
> but not KernelPageSize. Depending on the architecture, atomics would not
> work as expected in that case.
I thought most architectures don't support atomics crossing pages
anyways. x86 supports it, but it's discouraged.
>
> I'd expect other cases where an architecture might have to care about
> the actual, smallest possible MMUPageSize it might be executed on while
> running the program.
That's fine, they can use the min, or just the first match
(which is always the smallest)
>
> It's a shame we had to add MMUPageSize, but maybe it might resurface if
> we ever support emulating 64K/16K user pagesizes on 4K MMUs.
Okay, so if I follow that correctly you're suggesting
to change KernelPageSize, not MMUPageSize. I can do that change.
> Adding more confusion with this MMUPageSize extension is not an option.
> We should likely clarify what MMUPageSize really means.
That would be an orthogonal documentation patch.
Thanks,
-Andi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-02 20:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-25 23:27 Andi Kleen
2026-02-26 12:08 ` Usama Arif
2026-03-01 17:20 ` Andi Kleen
2026-02-26 17:31 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-01 17:35 ` Andi Kleen
2026-03-02 19:29 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-02 20:41 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2026-03-02 21:05 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-02 21:48 ` Andi Kleen
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