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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
Cc: Tal Zussman <tz2294@columbia.edu>,
	"Tigran A. Aivazian" <aivazian.tigran@gmail.com>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Namjae Jeon <linkinjeon@kernel.org>,
	Sungjong Seo <sj1557.seo@samsung.com>,
	Yuezhang Mo <yuezhang.mo@sony.com>,
	Dave Kleikamp <shaggy@kernel.org>,
	Ryusuke Konishi <konishi.ryusuke@gmail.com>,
	Viacheslav Dubeyko <slava@dubeyko.com>,
	Konstantin Komarov <almaz.alexandrovich@paragon-software.com>,
	Bob Copeland <me@bobcopeland.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	jfs-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-nilfs@vger.kernel.org, ntfs3@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-karma-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	"Vishal Moola (Oracle)" <vishal.moola@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 1/2] filemap: defer dropbehind invalidation from IRQ context
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2026 21:12:13 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aaC3LUFa1Jz2ahk3@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44e3e9ea-350b-4357-ba50-726e506feab5@kernel.dk>

On Wed, Feb 25, 2026 at 08:15:28PM -0700, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On 2/25/26 7:55 PM, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > I recently saw something (possibly XFS?) promoting this idea again.
> > And now there's this.  Perhaps the time has come to process all
> > write-completions in task context, rather than everyone coming up with
> > their own workqueues to solve their little piece of the problem?
> 
> Perhaps, even though the punting tends to suck... One idea I toyed with
> but had to abandon due to fs freezeing was letting callers that process
> completions in task context anyway just do the necessary work at that
> time. There's literally nothing worse than having part of a completion
> happen in IRQ, then punt parts of that to a worker, and need to wait for
> the worker to finish whatever it needs to do - only to then wake the
> target task. We can trivially do this in io_uring, as the actual
> completion is posted from the task itself anyway. We just need to have
> the task do the bottom half of the completion as well, rather than some
> unrelated kthread worker.
> 
> I'd be worried a generic solution would be the worst of all worlds, as
> it prevents optimizations that happen in eg iomap and other spots, where
> only completions that absolutely need to happen in task context get
> punted. There's a big difference between handling a completion inline vs
> needing a round-trip to some worker to do it.

I spoke a little hastily when I said "all write completions".  What I
really meant was something like:

+++ b/block/bio.c
@@ -1788,7 +1788,9 @@ void bio_endio(struct bio *bio)
        }
 #endif

-       if (bio->bi_end_io)
+       if (!in_task() && bio_flagged(bio, BIO_COMPLETE_IN_TASK_CONTEXT))
+               bio_queue_completion(bio);
+       else if (bio->bi_end_io)
                bio->bi_end_io(bio);
 }
 EXPORT_SYMBOL(bio_endio);

and then the submitter (ie writeback) would choose to set
BIO_COMPLETE_IN_TASK_CONTEXT.  And maybe others (eg fscrypt) would
want to do the same.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-26 21:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-25 22:40 [PATCH RFC v2 0/2] block: enable RWF_DONTCACHE for block devices Tal Zussman
2026-02-25 22:40 ` [PATCH RFC v2 1/2] filemap: defer dropbehind invalidation from IRQ context Tal Zussman
2026-02-25 22:52   ` Jens Axboe
2026-02-26  1:38     ` Tal Zussman
2026-02-26  3:11       ` Jens Axboe
2026-02-26  2:55     ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-02-26  3:15       ` Jens Axboe
2026-02-26 21:12         ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2026-02-26 22:04     ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-25 22:40 ` [PATCH RFC v2 2/2] block: enable RWF_DONTCACHE for block devices Tal Zussman
2026-02-26 22:07   ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-27  0:44     ` Tal Zussman

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