From: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
To: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>,
Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>,
Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>,
SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] docs/mm: add VMA locks documentation
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2024 08:59:00 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aa859c52-d2b7-4a35-82ba-e59cccbec896@lucifer.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <k2ugfhimeoos55l2ywxzdiagfif7cupkiyjfe7wd7ntvdci2xf@me536l2e5zjb>
On Fri, Nov 08, 2024 at 10:26:03AM +0200, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 07, 2024 at 07:01:37PM +0000, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> > +.. table:: Config-specific fields
> > +
> > + ================================= ===================== ======================================== ===============
> > + Field Configuration option Description Write lock
> > + ================================= ===================== ======================================== ===============
> > + :c:member:`!anon_name` CONFIG_ANON_VMA_NAME A field for storing a mmap write,
> > + :c:struct:`!struct anon_vma_name` VMA write.
> > + object providing a name for anonymous
> > + mappings, or :c:macro:`!NULL` if none
> > + is set or the VMA is file-backed.
> > + :c:member:`!swap_readahead_info` CONFIG_SWAP Metadata used by the swap mechanism mmap read.
> > + to perform readahead.
>
> It is not clear how writes to the field is serialized by a shared lock.
>
Yes I think there is a swap-specific lock, but I'm not sure it's worth confusing
matters by including that here, maybe here and for numab I will just wave my hands for that bit.
> It worth noting that it is atomic.
>
Will add.
> > + :c:member:`!vm_policy` CONFIG_NUMA :c:type:`!mempolicy` object which mmap write,
> > + describes the NUMA behaviour of the VMA write.
> > + VMA.
> > + :c:member:`!numab_state` CONFIG_NUMA_BALANCING :c:type:`!vma_numab_state` object which mmap read.
> > + describes the current state of
> > + NUMA balancing in relation to this VMA.
> > + Updated under mmap read lock by
> > + :c:func:`!task_numa_work`.
>
> Again, shared lock serializing writes make zero sense. There's other
> mechanism in play.
>
> I believe there's some kind of scheduler logic that excludes parallel
> updates for the same process. But I cannot say I understand this.
Ack, agreed, see above, hand waving probably required :)
>
> > + :c:member:`!vm_userfaultfd_ctx` CONFIG_USERFAULTFD Userfaultfd context wrapper object of mmap write,
> > + type :c:type:`!vm_userfaultfd_ctx`, VMA write.
> > + either of zero size if userfaultfd is
> > + disabled, or containing a pointer
> > + to an underlying
> > + :c:type:`!userfaultfd_ctx` object which
> > + describes userfaultfd metadata.
> > + ================================= ===================== ======================================== ===============
>
> ...
>
> > +Lock ordering
> > +-------------
> > +
> > +As we have multiple locks across the kernel which may or may not be taken at the
> > +same time as explicit mm or VMA locks, we have to be wary of lock inversion, and
> > +the **order** in which locks are acquired and released becomes very important.
> > +
> > +.. note:: Lock inversion occurs when two threads need to acquire multiple locks,
> > + but in doing so inadvertently cause a mutual deadlock.
> > +
> > + For example, consider thread 1 which holds lock A and tries to acquire lock B,
> > + while thread 2 holds lock B and tries to acquire lock A.
> > +
> > + Both threads are now deadlocked on each other. However, had they attempted to
> > + acquire locks in the same order, one would have waited for the other to
> > + complete its work and no deadlock would have occurred.
> > +
> > +The opening comment in `mm/rmap.c` describes in detail the required ordering of
> > +locks within memory management code:
> > +
> > +.. code-block::
> > +
> > + inode->i_rwsem (while writing or truncating, not reading or faulting)
> > + mm->mmap_lock
> > + mapping->invalidate_lock (in filemap_fault)
> > + folio_lock
> > + hugetlbfs_i_mmap_rwsem_key (in huge_pmd_share, see hugetlbfs below)
> > + vma_start_write
> > + mapping->i_mmap_rwsem
> > + anon_vma->rwsem
> > + mm->page_table_lock or pte_lock
> > + swap_lock (in swap_duplicate, swap_info_get)
> > + mmlist_lock (in mmput, drain_mmlist and others)
> > + mapping->private_lock (in block_dirty_folio)
> > + i_pages lock (widely used)
> > + lruvec->lru_lock (in folio_lruvec_lock_irq)
> > + inode->i_lock (in set_page_dirty's __mark_inode_dirty)
> > + bdi.wb->list_lock (in set_page_dirty's __mark_inode_dirty)
> > + sb_lock (within inode_lock in fs/fs-writeback.c)
> > + i_pages lock (widely used, in set_page_dirty,
> > + in arch-dependent flush_dcache_mmap_lock,
> > + within bdi.wb->list_lock in __sync_single_inode)
> > +
> > +Please check the current state of this comment which may have changed since the
> > +time of writing of this document.
>
> I think we need one canonical place for this information. Maybe it worth
> moving it here from rmap.c? There's more locking ordering info in filemap.c.
Re: canonical place - yes I agree, once this doc goes I can follow up with
a patch that replaces the comment with a link to the official kernel.org
latest docs etc.? That would also allow us to render this more nicely
perhaps, in future.
Re: mm/filemap.c - these are getting into file system-specific stuff so not
sure if the right place but there's a lot of overlap, maybe worth importing
anyway.
>
> --
> Kiryl Shutsemau / Kirill A. Shutemov
Thanks!
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-08 8:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-07 19:01 Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-07 21:15 ` Jann Horn
2024-11-08 10:35 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-08 8:26 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-11-08 8:59 ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2024-11-08 12:25 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2024-11-08 12:29 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-08 12:34 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-12 1:12 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2024-11-11 2:42 ` Wei Yang
2024-11-11 10:31 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-11 7:07 ` Wei Yang
2024-11-11 10:39 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
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