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b=RvkL39AKyiFEpOJuefEub8AY0x3Q2qxf8z3SJgt6teW+RYuCp6NdXiSuXBsPzZ+L/ 2Q1vbVnHRF4Vxmfe0QYwXeobwvIe+GKh4KhqD4UVyRg4TJwp4Ox8oZcQ6NBB5wtU2U CdOIPmAnCJj/cVaz3+CmczlRcTySZippB1GRI3lwwDDxhiCR73q14ZWvc8nnjrYfs4 3OM5Fu2dFnJM1s7LNAohDNVsnhuD/e234uHKX2wCwcZNmdnvLBTdqjZm/FsA0ZglXt PioWGb/6fF7EHeMFAMdJvuMywZ1sbRFLSQ6Pdzz+rEsF4LtWzyhcI/rX1EAMdRtNgh KosX6lygEzKqw== Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2026 20:00:22 +0000 From: "Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)" To: Kit Dallege Cc: Andrew Morton , Jonathan Corbet , david@kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Mel Gorman Subject: Re: [PATCH] Docs/mm: document Shared Memory Filesystem Message-ID: References: <20260314152538.100593-1-xaum.io@gmail.com> <87ms0ajtvy.fsf@trenco.lwn.net> <20260314111757.2a17c3acce8c3a1eb68ed209@linux-foundation.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20260314111757.2a17c3acce8c3a1eb68ed209@linux-foundation.org> X-Rspam-User: X-Rspamd-Server: rspam11 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 1236C140010 X-Stat-Signature: 5bgrmw3ft4hi981dcjrwhpoqi9bd89cs X-HE-Tag: 1773604826-609217 X-HE-Meta: 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 xGsPAow1 FUc8U/aaXtAP7a7GIxJ5rf/JZHsYRZ4Lu2sND4Vv1iCNkYUHxRGyOlhqg1oHYrLq+zSwucV8xyMpBq1b1baZU43SHTuaUOYvlmJQJXi46TuJwDBQBADlRe5nm1mka8l2K3cilfJGUlOX4Bs5TkeH9y9OUoWsGiRApVlWp982aGyX3ZIgvNcGFoeEDaW5UcIfjSsfj+gWgWlxXhzMOP6rpFOXnBnVwB8chyqRRY3ynMlXdDDuv1s4MYlnU0Zldpmghi8ezZl+LZO6HvPTfrPdiNnn2A2uoV8KjIIJ2akwzWj5VLOAxwDw1u+tk26cwagmOpfK3MiS65SZDA2uhoX9uFfsZwVArLDdPhMYT Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: NAK to this and every patch like this. On Sat, Mar 14, 2026 at 11:17:57AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: > On Sat, 14 Mar 2026 17:02:47 +0100 Kit Dallege wrote: > > > Hi Jon, > > > > The material was written with AI assistance (Claude) and then verified > > against the source code in mm/shmem.c. I read through the implementation, > > the existing comments, and Mel Gorman's book outline to identify what > > should be covered, then used AI to help draft the prose, which I reviewed > > and edited. 'The material was written with AI assistance' That reads to me like Claude generated this and you 'checked' it, but absolutely none of the commit messages give the slightest indication that you understand any of it. In fact they're all useless, lazy and seem auto-generated too. You have no previous contributions to the kernel whatosever, let alone in mm. So you are not well placed honestly to check any of this, and are instead putting in low effoft and expecting finite maintainer resource to review this for you. NO to this. I can go right now and get Claude to do the same thing, this is not helpful. > > OK, so you're saying that you created the content and used an LLM to > assist in finishing it off? See above, that is not what it reads like. > > > I'm happy to rework anything that's inaccurate or doesn't meet the bar. > > Should I add an Assisted-by tag to the commit? > > Yes, Assisted-by: is appropriate and useful here. https://kernel.org/doc/html/latest/process/generated-content.html "As with the output of any tooling, the result may be incorrect or inappropriate. You are expected to understand and to be able to defend everything you submit. If you are unable to do so, then do not submit the resulting changes. If you do so anyway, maintainers are entitled to reject your series without detailed review." > > >From a quick scan, this material appears to be helpful and I think it > would be good for us to get this into the tree in some fashion. Which > will involve asking the relevant MM developers to review each change. It's not useful, it is doing something anybody could do, and delegates all the work to the sub-maintainers, and there's already too much review in mm. I do NOT want this precedent set. > > > Mel Gorman's book outline > > Well, Mel may have an opinion on this - hopefully you discussed this > with him beforehand. Mel's book is fantastic and Mel is great but it's very old now. In any case I question whether even this has been done, look at the commit messages. They're as lazy as they could be and look auto-generated. Kit - if this is sincere, please take the time to try to understand what you're describing FIRST, in DEPTH. In fact I don't think it makes any sense for us to take doc patches about mm from anybody other than somebody with actual experience working in mm or who can SERIOUSLY demonstrate understanding. Thanks, Lorenzo