linux-mm.kvack.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: YoungJun Park <youngjun.park@lge.com>
To: Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>
Cc: rafael@kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, kasong@tencent.com,
	pavel@kernel.org, shikemeng@huaweicloud.com, nphamcs@gmail.com,
	bhe@redhat.com, baohua@kernel.org, usama.arif@linux.dev,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	hyungjun.cho@lge.com, youngjun.park@lge.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2] mm/swap, PM: hibernate: hold swap device reference across swap operation
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2026 16:42:13 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aa551UFgiq+gUl/T@yjaykim-PowerEdge-T330> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACePvbVp=9PM=LUdL=aq8G2Svy+v04pBnf3ygRY+xW3WEHNm9A@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Mar 08, 2026 at 11:43:20PM -0700, Chris Li wrote:

> Agree. That place needs fixing. We will make two patches.
> 
> Patch 1. Fix the swap off  racing between lookup and first allocation
> on suspend.
> swap_type_of() is very tricky for the device swap because of the
> conditional lookup of the si->start_block matching the offset or not.
> That make this patch very complex.
> 
> One idea to brainstorm:
> 
> So we can get the reference count on during snapshot_open(), after
> checking "root_swap" still points to valid swsusp_resume_device.
> Then we release the reference count on "root_swap" during snapshot_release().
> 
> That might side step the complexity of  swap_type_of() doing the
> si->start_block checking.
> 
> It should fix the bug you described here more simply.

While that approach would be great as a minimal fix, I think we still
cannot avoid the following situation.

Until the first swap offset is allocated, we cannot guarantee that swapoff
won't happen. To be safe, I think it is difficult to prevent swapoff
without holding the swap_lock.

So, to stick to the minimal fix principle and only address the currently
possible bug in uswsusp, we could consider:

1) Creating a separate function to grab the reference for uswsusp, and
   put it in snapshot_close().
2) Adding a parameter to swap_type_of() to decide whether to acquire the
   reference or not, and put it in swsusp_close() 

On all strategies, we do not grab the
reference when taking an in-kernel snapshot, and do not add alloc/free
get/put.

> > My proposal is to grab the reference at the lookup point to close this
> > initial race.
> 
> That is my suggested patch 1.
> 
> > If we do that, I believe we can remove the per-slot
> > get/put calls entirely, as the initial reference is sufficient to keep the
> 
> I suggest that as the patch 2. It is an optimization to eliminate the
> get/put pairs. It is optional. without it is fine in terms of
> correctness. Might not worth the trouble for patch 2.

Yes, I agree. I will split the patch into two as you suggested and think
about it further.

> > device alive until the operation completes.
> >
> > Regarding the reference release strategy in this patch:
> >
> > 1. uswsusp: The reference is released when the snapshot device file
> >    is closed(snapshot_release) and error paths.
> > 2. not uswsusp`: I only added reference release in the error paths.
> 
> That part makes this patch complex and harder to review. Need to
> carefully check whether we take the reference count or not.
> 
> >
> > About 2.. I conclude that on a successful resume, the system state reverts to

> > the snapshot point, making an explicit release unnecessary. However,
> > I am not 100% certain if this holds true for the swap reference
> > context.
> 
> That is the part I try to avoid: the very fragmented error condition
> for reference counting.
> Hopefully, with patch 1 idea we don't need that complexity.

I agree with you.
But, I believe it can be a safe modification that can be sufficiently
verified through review.

I would love to hear the thoughts of the hibernation maintainers and other
reviewers on this. Although there are some complex parts, I think this
modification has clear benefits.

Thanks

Best regards,
Youngjun Park


  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-09  7:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-06  2:46 Youngjun Park
2026-03-06  6:55 ` Chris Li
2026-03-06  8:02   ` YoungJun Park
2026-03-09  6:43     ` Chris Li
2026-03-09  7:42       ` YoungJun Park [this message]
2026-03-11  7:31         ` Chris Li

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=aa551UFgiq+gUl/T@yjaykim-PowerEdge-T330 \
    --to=youngjun.park@lge.com \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=baohua@kernel.org \
    --cc=bhe@redhat.com \
    --cc=chrisl@kernel.org \
    --cc=hyungjun.cho@lge.com \
    --cc=kasong@tencent.com \
    --cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
    --cc=linux-pm@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=nphamcs@gmail.com \
    --cc=pavel@kernel.org \
    --cc=rafael@kernel.org \
    --cc=shikemeng@huaweicloud.com \
    --cc=usama.arif@linux.dev \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox