From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Kairui Song via B4 Relay <devnull+kasong.tencent.com@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
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Kemeng Shi <shikemeng@huaweicloud.com>,
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Youngjun Park <youngjun.park@lge.com>,
Chengming Zhou <chengming.zhou@linux.dev>,
Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>,
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Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 08/15] mm, swap: store and check memcg info in the swap table
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2026 11:36:55 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aZyCJ6pH4hey-ZoU@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260220-swap-table-p4-v1-8-104795d19815@tencent.com>
On Fri, Feb 20, 2026 at 07:42:09AM +0800, Kairui Song via B4 Relay wrote:
> From: Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>
>
> To prepare for merging the swap_cgroup_ctrl into the swap table, store
> the memcg info in the swap table on swapout.
>
> This is done by using the existing shadow format.
>
> Note this also changes the refault counting at the nearest online memcg
> level:
>
> Unlike file folios, anon folios are mostly exclusive to one mem cgroup,
> and each cgroup is likely to have different characteristics.
This is not correct.
As much as I like the idea of storing the swap_cgroup association
inside the shadow entry, the refault evaluation needs to happen at the
level that drove eviction.
Consider a workload that is split into cgroups purely for accounting,
not for setting different limits:
workload (limit domain)
`- component A
`- component B
This means the two components must compete freely, and it must behave
as if there is only one LRU. When pages get reclaimed in a round-robin
fashion, both A and B get aged at the same pace. Likewise, when pages
in A refault, they must challenge the *combined* workingset of both A
and B, not just the local pages.
Otherwise, you risk retaining stale workingset in one subgroup while
the other one is thrashing. This breaks userspace expectations.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-23 16:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-19 23:42 [PATCH RFC 00/15] mm, swap: swap table phase IV with dynamic ghost swapfile Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-02-19 23:42 ` [PATCH RFC 01/15] mm: move thp_limit_gfp_mask to header Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-02-19 23:42 ` [PATCH RFC 02/15] mm, swap: simplify swap_cache_alloc_folio Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-02-19 23:42 ` [PATCH RFC 03/15] mm, swap: move conflict checking logic of out swap cache adding Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-02-19 23:42 ` [PATCH RFC 04/15] mm, swap: add support for large order folios in swap cache directly Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-02-19 23:42 ` [PATCH RFC 05/15] mm, swap: unify large folio allocation Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-02-19 23:42 ` [PATCH RFC 06/15] memcg, swap: reparent the swap entry on swapin if swapout cgroup is dead Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-02-23 16:22 ` Johannes Weiner
2026-02-19 23:42 ` [PATCH RFC 07/15] memcg, swap: defer the recording of memcg info and reparent flexibly Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-02-19 23:42 ` [PATCH RFC 08/15] mm, swap: store and check memcg info in the swap table Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-02-23 16:36 ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2026-02-19 23:42 ` [PATCH RFC 09/15] mm, swap: support flexible batch freeing of slots in different memcg Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-02-19 23:42 ` [PATCH RFC 10/15] mm, swap: always retrieve memcg id from swap table Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-02-19 23:42 ` [PATCH RFC 11/15] mm/swap, memcg: remove swap cgroup array Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-02-19 23:42 ` [PATCH RFC 12/15] mm, swap: merge zeromap into swap table Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-02-19 23:42 ` [PATCH RFC 13/15] mm: ghost swapfile support for zswap Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-02-19 23:42 ` [PATCH RFC 14/15] mm, swap: add a special device for ghost swap setup Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-02-19 23:42 ` [PATCH RFC 15/15] mm, swap: allocate cluster dynamically for ghost swapfile Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-02-21 8:15 ` [PATCH RFC 00/15] mm, swap: swap table phase IV with dynamic " Barry Song
2026-02-21 9:07 ` Kairui Song
2026-02-21 9:30 ` Barry Song
2026-02-23 16:52 ` Johannes Weiner
2026-02-23 18:22 ` Nhat Pham
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