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charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Server: rspam09 X-Stat-Signature: b59f8zfwimco4kt4uo668kftg7mb3x81 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 0882A40003 X-Rspam-User: X-HE-Tag: 1771858507-86532 X-HE-Meta: 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 5gjIaDwh 9pWdPF1mLpwMmbI+t7B6qx1uZbbJj3hnkP+hxpCqrAZ8GWYpbSsUajmv5QuTnjJ+QU3JBr8ShmzFk4mnFC/jUQacXZ3dVaVy5VQnB+IggH84QCQwnLvz1i7BurIBwu4qG1BTYrC7awHZve7uv/0zRyd5X9NDOuO0cgStO4XeWuwoqfEJQn4vsoQRZJ8NzrVRs1gePEsMBXlqERYT2dnjG0HRp2N3exf4wxnXNBgXGXSLdI9dmqNkf+TaqFRHmyjXH9eilxjdldaeXxrI4b08+6I45zir4YOzTl/Ke3v1FeRuB3q1DRH43fmt58rsdsL2oqWgq1MNu4nKv/C2yutVkmCgdybQGjkHqjr08iq6s8zTazFOEqE5noGSmteSGuFMQWe8At+p3d6UBk7f+h1zOzs391w== X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, Feb 23, 2026 at 02:07:15PM +0100, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote: > > > > Gregory Price (27): > > numa: introduce N_MEMORY_PRIVATE node state > > mm,cpuset: gate allocations from N_MEMORY_PRIVATE behind __GFP_PRIVATE > > mm/page_alloc: add numa_zone_allowed() and wire it up > > mm/page_alloc: Add private node handling to build_zonelists > > mm: introduce folio_is_private_managed() unified predicate > > mm/mlock: skip mlock for managed-memory folios > > mm/madvise: skip madvise for managed-memory folios > > mm/ksm: skip KSM for managed-memory folios > > mm/khugepaged: skip private node folios when trying to collapse. > > mm/swap: add free_folio callback for folio release cleanup > > mm/huge_memory.c: add private node folio split notification callback > > mm/migrate: NP_OPS_MIGRATION - support private node user migration > > mm/mempolicy: NP_OPS_MEMPOLICY - support private node mempolicy > > mm/memory-tiers: NP_OPS_DEMOTION - support private node demotion > > mm/mprotect: NP_OPS_PROTECT_WRITE - gate PTE/PMD write-upgrades > > I'm concerned about adding more special-casing (similar to what we already > added for ZONE_DEVICE) all over the place. > > Like the whole folio_managed_() stuff in mprotect.c > > Having that said, sounds like a reasonable topic to discuss. > It's a valid concern - and is why I tried to re-use as many of the zone_device hooks as possible. It does not seem zone_device has quite the same semantics for a case like this, so I had to make something new. DEVICE_COHERENT injects a temporary swap entry to allow the device to do a large atomic operation - then the page table is restored and the CPU is free to change entries as it pleases. Another option would be to add the hook to vma_wants_writenotify() instead of the page table code - and mask MM_CP_TRY_CHANGE_WRITABLE. This would require adding a vma flag - or maybe a count of protected / device pages. int mprotect_fixup() { ... if (vma_wants_manual_pte_write_upgrade(vma)) mm_cp_flags |= MM_CP_TRY_CHANGE_WRITABLE; } bool vma_wants_writenotify(struct vm_area_struct *vma, pgprot_t vm_page_prot) { if (vma->managed_wrprotect) return true; } That would localize the change in folio_managed_fixup_migration_pte() : static inline pte_t folio_managed_fixup_migration_pte(struct page *new, pte_t pte, pte_t old_pte, struct vm_area_struct *vma) { ... } else if (folio_managed_wrprotect(page_folio(new))) { pte = pte_wrprotect(pte); + atomic_inc(&vma->managed_wrprotect); } return pte; } This would cover both the huge_memory.c and mprotect, and maybe that's just generally cleaner? I can try that to see if it actually works. ~Gregory