From: Kiryl Shutsemau <kas@kernel.org>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
Cc: Kalesh Singh <kaleshsingh@google.com>,
lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Usama Arif <usama.arif@linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] 64k (or 16k) base page size on x86
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2026 11:13:29 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aZw1DlKHaWvgOtm_@thinkstation> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <32ed82dd-62c3-4a5c-8bae-9465afd7e75f@kernel.org>
On Mon, Feb 23, 2026 at 12:04:10PM +0100, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> On 2/20/26 20:33, Kalesh Singh wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 20, 2026 at 8:30 AM David Hildenbrand (Arm)
> > <david@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 2/20/26 13:07, Kiryl Shutsemau wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well, it will drastically limit the adoption. We have too much legacy
> > > > stuff on x86.
> > >
> > > I'd assume that many applications nowadays can deal with differing page
> > > sizes (thanks to some other architectures paving the way).
> > >
> > > But yes, some real legacy stuff, or stuff that ever only cared about
> > > intel still hardcodes pagesize=4k.
> >
> > I think most issues will stem from linkers setting the default ELF
> > segment alignment (max-page-size) for x86 to 4096. So those ELFs will
> > not load correctly or at all on the larger emulated granularity.
>
> Right, I assume that they will have to be thought about that, and possibly,
> some binaries/libraries recompiled.
I think backward compatibility is important and I believe we can get
there without ABI break. And optimize from there.
BTW, x86-64 SysV ABI allows for 64k page size:
Systems are permitted to use any power-of-two page size between
4KB and 64KB, inclusive.
But it doesn't work in practice.
--
Kiryl Shutsemau / Kirill A. Shutemov
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-23 11:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-19 15:08 Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-02-19 15:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-19 15:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-19 15:27 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-02-19 15:33 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-02-19 15:50 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-02-19 15:53 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-19 19:31 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-02-19 15:39 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-19 15:54 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-02-19 16:09 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-20 2:55 ` Zi Yan
2026-02-19 17:09 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-02-20 10:24 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-20 12:07 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-02-20 16:30 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-20 19:33 ` Kalesh Singh
2026-02-23 11:04 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-23 11:13 ` Kiryl Shutsemau [this message]
2026-02-23 11:27 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-23 12:16 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-02-23 15:14 ` Dave Hansen
2026-02-23 15:31 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-23 15:45 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-02-23 15:49 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-23 16:22 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-02-23 16:34 ` David Laight
2026-02-19 23:24 ` Kalesh Singh
2026-02-20 12:10 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-02-20 19:21 ` Kalesh Singh
2026-02-19 17:08 ` Dave Hansen
2026-02-19 22:05 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-02-20 3:28 ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-02-20 12:33 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-02-20 15:17 ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-02-20 15:50 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-02-19 17:30 ` Dave Hansen
2026-02-19 22:14 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-02-19 22:21 ` Dave Hansen
2026-02-19 17:47 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-02-19 22:26 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-02-20 9:04 ` David Laight
2026-02-20 12:12 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=aZw1DlKHaWvgOtm_@thinkstation \
--to=kas@kernel.org \
--cc=Liam.Howlett@oracle.com \
--cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
--cc=bp@alien8.de \
--cc=dave.hansen@linux.intel.com \
--cc=david@kernel.org \
--cc=hannes@cmpxchg.org \
--cc=kaleshsingh@google.com \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
--cc=lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com \
--cc=lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org \
--cc=mingo@redhat.com \
--cc=rppt@kernel.org \
--cc=tglx@linutronix.de \
--cc=usama.arif@linux.dev \
--cc=willy@infradead.org \
--cc=x86@kernel.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox