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From: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
To: kasong@tencent.com
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	 Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	 Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>,
	 Kemeng Shi <shikemeng@huaweicloud.com>,
	Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>, Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>,
	 Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Yosry Ahmed <yosry.ahmed@linux.dev>,
	 Youngjun Park <youngjun.park@lge.com>,
	Chengming Zhou <chengming.zhou@linux.dev>,
	 Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	 Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 06/15] memcg, swap: reparent the swap entry on swapin if swapout cgroup is dead
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2026 21:44:07 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aZ0oXHNMe7_3P9OT@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260220-swap-table-p4-v1-6-104795d19815@tencent.com>

On Fri, Feb 20, 2026 at 07:42:07AM +0800, Kairui Song via B4 Relay wrote:
> From: Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>
> 
> As a result this will always charge the swapin folio into the dead
> cgroup's parent cgroup, and ensure folio->swap belongs to folio_memcg.

I directly jump to this patch and the opening statement is confusing. Please
make the commit message self contained.

> This only affects some uncommon behavior if we move the process between
> memcg.
> 
> When a process that previously swapped some memory is moved to another
> cgroup, and the cgroup where the swap occurred is dead, folios for
> swap in of old swap entries will be charged into the new cgroup.
> Combined with the lazy freeing of swap cache, this leads to a strange
> situation where the folio->swap entry belongs to a cgroup that is not
> folio->memcg.

Why is this an issue (i.e. folio->swap's cgroup different from
folio->memcg)?

> 
> Swapin from dead zombie memcg might be rare in practise, cgroups are
> offlined only after the workload in it is gone, which requires zapping
> the page table first, and releases all swap entries. Shmem is
> a bit different, but shmem always has swap count == 1, and force
> releases the swap cache. So, for shmem charging into the new memcg and
> release entry does look more sensible.

Is this behavior same for all types of memory backed by shmem (i.e. MAP_SHARED,
memfd etc)? What about cow anon memory shared between parent and child
processes?

> 
> However, to make things easier to understand for an RFC, let's just
> always charge to the parent cgroup if the leaf cgroup is dead. This may
> not be the best design, but it makes the following work much easier to
> demonstrate.

Please add couple of line on how will it make things easier.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-02-24  5:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-19 23:42 [PATCH RFC 00/15] mm, swap: swap table phase IV with dynamic ghost swapfile Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-02-19 23:42 ` [PATCH RFC 01/15] mm: move thp_limit_gfp_mask to header Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-02-19 23:42 ` [PATCH RFC 02/15] mm, swap: simplify swap_cache_alloc_folio Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-02-19 23:42 ` [PATCH RFC 03/15] mm, swap: move conflict checking logic of out swap cache adding Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-02-19 23:42 ` [PATCH RFC 04/15] mm, swap: add support for large order folios in swap cache directly Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-02-19 23:42 ` [PATCH RFC 05/15] mm, swap: unify large folio allocation Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-02-19 23:42 ` [PATCH RFC 06/15] memcg, swap: reparent the swap entry on swapin if swapout cgroup is dead Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-02-23 16:22   ` Johannes Weiner
2026-02-24  5:44   ` Shakeel Butt [this message]
2026-02-24  8:08     ` Kairui Song
2026-02-19 23:42 ` [PATCH RFC 07/15] memcg, swap: defer the recording of memcg info and reparent flexibly Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-02-19 23:42 ` [PATCH RFC 08/15] mm, swap: store and check memcg info in the swap table Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-02-23 16:36   ` Johannes Weiner
2026-02-24  8:34     ` Kairui Song
2026-02-19 23:42 ` [PATCH RFC 09/15] mm, swap: support flexible batch freeing of slots in different memcg Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-02-19 23:42 ` [PATCH RFC 10/15] mm, swap: always retrieve memcg id from swap table Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-02-19 23:42 ` [PATCH RFC 11/15] mm/swap, memcg: remove swap cgroup array Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-02-19 23:42 ` [PATCH RFC 12/15] mm, swap: merge zeromap into swap table Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-02-19 23:42 ` [PATCH RFC 13/15] mm: ghost swapfile support for zswap Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-02-19 23:42 ` [PATCH RFC 14/15] mm, swap: add a special device for ghost swap setup Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-02-19 23:42 ` [PATCH RFC 15/15] mm, swap: allocate cluster dynamically for ghost swapfile Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-02-21  8:15 ` [PATCH RFC 00/15] mm, swap: swap table phase IV with dynamic " Barry Song
2026-02-21  9:07   ` Kairui Song
2026-02-21  9:30     ` Barry Song
2026-02-23 16:52 ` Johannes Weiner
2026-02-24  2:10   ` Kairui Song
2026-02-23 18:22 ` Nhat Pham
2026-02-24  3:34   ` Kairui Song

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