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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
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	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	Nikita Kalyazin <kalyazin@amazon.com>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
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	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
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	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 07/17] userfaultfd: introduce vm_uffd_ops
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2026 14:35:23 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aYzZ-zBipYQ2OA_n@x1.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aYhh2XzyFsJbohll@kernel.org>

On Sun, Feb 08, 2026 at 12:13:45PM +0200, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> Hi Peter,
> 
> On Mon, Feb 02, 2026 at 04:36:40PM -0500, Peter Xu wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 27, 2026 at 09:29:26PM +0200, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> > > From: "Mike Rapoport (Microsoft)" <rppt@kernel.org>
> > > 
> > > Current userfaultfd implementation works only with memory managed by
> > > core MM: anonymous, shmem and hugetlb.
> > > 
> > > First, there is no fundamental reason to limit userfaultfd support only
> > > to the core memory types and userfaults can be handled similarly to
> > > regular page faults provided a VMA owner implements appropriate
> > > callbacks.
> > > 
> > > Second, historically various code paths were conditioned on
> > > vma_is_anonymous(), vma_is_shmem() and is_vm_hugetlb_page() and some of
> > > these conditions can be expressed as operations implemented by a
> > > particular memory type.
> > > 
> > > Introduce vm_uffd_ops extension to vm_operations_struct that will
> > > delegate memory type specific operations to a VMA owner.
> > > 
> > > Operations for anonymous memory are handled internally in userfaultfd
> > > using anon_uffd_ops that implicitly assigned to anonymous VMAs.
> > > 
> > > Start with a single operation, ->can_userfault() that will verify that a
> > > VMA meets requirements for userfaultfd support at registration time.
> > > 
> > > Implement that method for anonymous, shmem and hugetlb and move relevant
> > > parts of vma_can_userfault() into the new callbacks.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Mike Rapoport (Microsoft) <rppt@kernel.org>
> > > ---
> > >  include/linux/mm.h            |  5 +++++
> > >  include/linux/userfaultfd_k.h |  6 +++++
> > >  mm/hugetlb.c                  | 21 ++++++++++++++++++
> > >  mm/shmem.c                    | 23 ++++++++++++++++++++
> > >  mm/userfaultfd.c              | 41 ++++++++++++++++++++++-------------
> > >  5 files changed, 81 insertions(+), 15 deletions(-)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/include/linux/mm.h b/include/linux/mm.h
> > > index 15076261d0c2..3c2caff646c3 100644
> > > --- a/include/linux/mm.h
> > > +++ b/include/linux/mm.h
> > > @@ -732,6 +732,8 @@ struct vm_fault {
> > >  					 */
> > >  };
> > >  
> > > +struct vm_uffd_ops;
> > > +
> > >  /*
> > >   * These are the virtual MM functions - opening of an area, closing and
> > >   * unmapping it (needed to keep files on disk up-to-date etc), pointer
> > > @@ -817,6 +819,9 @@ struct vm_operations_struct {
> > >  	struct page *(*find_normal_page)(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
> > >  					 unsigned long addr);
> > >  #endif /* CONFIG_FIND_NORMAL_PAGE */
> > > +#ifdef CONFIG_USERFAULTFD
> > > +	const struct vm_uffd_ops *uffd_ops;
> > > +#endif
> > >  };
> > >  
> > >  #ifdef CONFIG_NUMA_BALANCING
> > > diff --git a/include/linux/userfaultfd_k.h b/include/linux/userfaultfd_k.h
> > > index a49cf750e803..56e85ab166c7 100644
> > > --- a/include/linux/userfaultfd_k.h
> > > +++ b/include/linux/userfaultfd_k.h
> > > @@ -80,6 +80,12 @@ struct userfaultfd_ctx {
> > >  
> > >  extern vm_fault_t handle_userfault(struct vm_fault *vmf, unsigned long reason);
> > >  
> > > +/* VMA userfaultfd operations */
> > > +struct vm_uffd_ops {
> > > +	/* Checks if a VMA can support userfaultfd */
> > > +	bool (*can_userfault)(struct vm_area_struct *vma, vm_flags_t vm_flags);
> > > +};
> > > +
> > >  /* A combined operation mode + behavior flags. */
> > >  typedef unsigned int __bitwise uffd_flags_t;
> > >  
> > > diff --git a/mm/hugetlb.c b/mm/hugetlb.c
> > > index 51273baec9e5..909131910c43 100644
> > > --- a/mm/hugetlb.c
> > > +++ b/mm/hugetlb.c
> > > @@ -4797,6 +4797,24 @@ static vm_fault_t hugetlb_vm_op_fault(struct vm_fault *vmf)
> > >  	return 0;
> > >  }
> > >  
> > > +#ifdef CONFIG_USERFAULTFD
> > > +static bool hugetlb_can_userfault(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
> > > +				  vm_flags_t vm_flags)
> > > +{
> > > +	/*
> > > +	 * If user requested uffd-wp but not enabled pte markers for
> > > +	 * uffd-wp, then hugetlb is not supported.
> > > +	 */
> > > +	if (!uffd_supports_wp_marker() && (vm_flags & VM_UFFD_WP))
> > > +		return false;
> > 
> > IMHO we don't need to dup this for every vm_uffd_ops driver.  It might be
> > unnecessary to even make driver be aware how pte marker plays the role
> > here, because pte markers are needed for all page cache file systems
> > anyway.  There should have no outliers.  Instead we can just let
> > can_userfault() report whether the driver generically supports userfaultfd,
> > leaving the detail checks for core mm.
> > 
> > I understand you wanted to also make anon to be a driver, so this line
> > won't apply to anon.  However IMHO anon is special enough so we can still
> > make this in the generic path.
> 
> Well, the idea is to drop all vma_is*() in can_userfault(). And maybe
> eventually in entire mm/userfaultfd.c
> 
> If all page cache filesystems need this, something like this should work,
> right?
> 
> 	if (!uffd_supports_wp_marker() && (vma->vm_flags & VM_SHARED) &&
> 	    (vm_flags & VM_UFFD_WP))
> 		return false;

Sorry for a late response.

IIUC we can't check against VM_SHARED, because we need pte markers also for
MAP_PRIVATE on file mappings.

The need of pte markers come from the fact that the vma has a page cache
backing it, rather than whether it's a shared or private mapping.  Consider
if a file mapping vma + MAP_PRIVATE, if we wr-protect the vma with nothing
populated, we want to still get notified whenever there's a write.

So the original check should be good.

I'm fine with most of the rest comments in this series I left and I'm OK if
you prefer settle things down first.  For this one, I still want to see if
we can move this to uffd core code.

The whole point is I want to have zero info leaked about pte marker into
module ops.

For that, IMHO it'll be fine we use one vma_is_anonymous() is uffd core
code once.

Actually, I don't think uffd core can get rid of handling anon specially.
With this series applied, mfill_atomic_pte_copy() will still need to
hard-code anon processing on MAP_PRIVATE and I don't think it can go away..

mfill_atomic_pte_copy():
	if (!(state->vma->vm_flags & VM_SHARED))
		ops = &anon_uffd_ops;

IMHO using vma_is_anonymous() for one more time should be better than
leaking pte marker whole concept to modules. So the driver should only
report if the driver supports UFFD_WP in general.  It shouldn't care about
anything the core mm would already do otherwise, including this one on
"whether system config / arch has globally enabled pte markers" and the
relation between that config and the WP feature impl details.

Thanks,

-- 
Peter Xu



  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-11 19:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-27 19:29 [PATCH RFC 00/17] mm, kvm: allow uffd suppot in guest_memfd Mike Rapoport
2026-01-27 19:29 ` [PATCH RFC 01/17] userfaultfd: introduce mfill_copy_folio_locked() helper Mike Rapoport
2026-02-03 17:45   ` Peter Xu
2026-02-08  9:49     ` Mike Rapoport
2026-01-27 19:29 ` [PATCH RFC 02/17] userfaultfd: introduce struct mfill_state Mike Rapoport
2026-01-27 19:29 ` [PATCH RFC 03/17] userfaultfd: introduce mfill_get_pmd() helper Mike Rapoport
2026-01-27 19:29 ` [PATCH RFC 04/17] userfaultfd: introduce mfill_get_vma() and mfill_put_vma() Mike Rapoport
2026-02-02 21:49   ` Peter Xu
2026-02-08  9:54     ` Mike Rapoport
2026-01-27 19:29 ` [PATCH RFC 05/17] userfaultfd: retry copying with locks dropped in mfill_atomic_pte_copy() Mike Rapoport
2026-02-02 21:23   ` Peter Xu
2026-02-08 10:01     ` Mike Rapoport
2026-01-27 19:29 ` [PATCH RFC 06/17] userfaultfd: move vma_can_userfault out of line Mike Rapoport
2026-01-27 19:29 ` [PATCH RFC 07/17] userfaultfd: introduce vm_uffd_ops Mike Rapoport
2026-02-02 21:36   ` Peter Xu
2026-02-08 10:13     ` Mike Rapoport
2026-02-11 19:35       ` Peter Xu [this message]
2026-02-15 17:47         ` Mike Rapoport
2026-02-18 21:34           ` Peter Xu
2026-01-27 19:29 ` [PATCH RFC 08/17] userfaultfd, shmem: use a VMA callback to handle UFFDIO_CONTINUE Mike Rapoport
2026-01-27 19:29 ` [PATCH RFC 09/17] userfaultfd: introduce vm_uffd_ops->alloc_folio() Mike Rapoport
2026-02-02 22:13   ` Peter Xu
2026-02-08 10:22     ` Mike Rapoport
2026-02-11 19:37       ` Peter Xu
2026-01-27 19:29 ` [PATCH RFC 10/17] shmem, userfaultfd: implement shmem uffd operations using vm_uffd_ops Mike Rapoport
2026-02-03 17:40   ` Peter Xu
2026-02-08 10:35     ` Mike Rapoport
2026-02-11 20:00       ` Peter Xu
2026-02-15 17:45         ` Mike Rapoport
2026-02-18 21:45           ` Peter Xu
2026-01-27 19:29 ` [PATCH RFC 11/17] userfaultfd: mfill_atomic() remove retry logic Mike Rapoport
2026-01-27 19:29 ` [PATCH RFC 12/17] mm: introduce VM_FAULT_UFFD_MINOR fault reason Mike Rapoport
2026-01-27 19:29 ` [PATCH RFC 13/17] mm: introduce VM_FAULT_UFFD_MISSING " Mike Rapoport
2026-01-27 19:29 ` [PATCH RFC 14/17] KVM: guest_memfd: implement userfaultfd minor mode Mike Rapoport
2026-01-27 19:29 ` [PATCH RFC 15/17] KVM: guest_memfd: implement userfaultfd missing mode Mike Rapoport
2026-01-27 19:29 ` [PATCH RFC 16/17] KVM: selftests: test userfaultfd minor for guest_memfd Mike Rapoport
2026-01-27 19:29 ` [PATCH RFC 17/17] KVM: selftests: test userfaultfd missing " Mike Rapoport
2026-02-03 20:56 ` [PATCH RFC 00/17] mm, kvm: allow uffd suppot in guest_memfd Peter Xu
2026-02-09 15:35   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-11  6:04     ` Mike Rapoport
2026-02-11  9:52       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)

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