From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
Hyeonggon Yoo <42.hyeyoo@gmail.com>,
Leonardo Bras <leobras@redhat.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbecker@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Introduce QPW for per-cpu operations
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2026 13:50:45 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aYyzZbh/YRMDcviS@tpad> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aYywl1hdBQP2_slo@tiehlicka>
On Wed, Feb 11, 2026 at 05:38:47PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Wed 11-02-26 09:01:12, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 10, 2026 at 03:01:10PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> [...]
> > > What about !PREEMPT_RT? We have people running isolated workloads and
> > > these sorts of pcp disruptions are really unwelcome as well. They do not
> > > have requirements as strong as RT workloads but the underlying
> > > fundamental problem is the same. Frederic (now CCed) is working on
> > > moving those pcp book keeping activities to be executed to the return to
> > > the userspace which should be taking care of both RT and non-RT
> > > configurations AFAICS.
> >
> > Michal,
> >
> > For !PREEMPT_RT, _if_ you select CONFIG_QPW=y, then there is a kernel
> > boot option qpw=y/n, which controls whether the behaviour will be
> > similar (the spinlock is taken on local_lock, similar to PREEMPT_RT).
>
> My bad. I've misread the config space of this.
My bad, actually. Its only CONFIG_QPW on the current patchset.
> > If CONFIG_QPW=n, or kernel boot option qpw=n, then only local_lock
> > (and remote work via work_queue) is used.
> >
> > What "pcp book keeping activities" you refer to ? I don't see how
> > moving certain activities that happen under SLUB or LRU spinlocks
> > to happen before return to userspace changes things related
> > to avoidance of CPU interruption ?
>
> Essentially delayed operations like pcp state flushing happens on return
> to the userspace on isolated CPUs. No locking changes are required as
> the work is still per-cpu.
>
> In other words the approach Frederic is working on is to not change the
> locking of pcp delayed work but instead move that work into well defined
> place - i.e. return to the userspace.
>
> Btw. have you measure the impact of preempt_disbale -> spinlock on hot
> paths like SLUB sheeves?
Nope, i have not. What is/are the standard benchmarks for SLUB/SLAB
allocation ?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-11 16:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-06 14:34 Marcelo Tosatti
2026-02-06 14:34 ` [PATCH 1/4] Introducing qpw_lock() and per-cpu queue & flush work Marcelo Tosatti
2026-02-06 15:20 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2026-02-07 0:16 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-02-11 12:09 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2026-02-14 21:32 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-02-06 14:34 ` [PATCH 2/4] mm/swap: move bh draining into a separate workqueue Marcelo Tosatti
2026-02-06 14:34 ` [PATCH 3/4] swap: apply new queue_percpu_work_on() interface Marcelo Tosatti
2026-02-07 1:06 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-02-06 14:34 ` [PATCH 4/4] slub: " Marcelo Tosatti
2026-02-07 1:27 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-02-06 23:56 ` [PATCH 0/4] Introduce QPW for per-cpu operations Leonardo Bras
2026-02-10 14:01 ` Michal Hocko
2026-02-11 12:01 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2026-02-11 12:11 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2026-02-14 21:35 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-02-11 16:38 ` Michal Hocko
2026-02-11 16:50 ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2026-02-11 16:59 ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-02-11 17:07 ` Michal Hocko
2026-02-14 22:02 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-02-16 11:00 ` Michal Hocko
2026-02-19 15:27 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2026-02-19 19:30 ` Michal Hocko
2026-02-20 14:30 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2026-02-20 10:48 ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-02-20 12:31 ` Michal Hocko
2026-02-20 17:35 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2026-02-20 17:58 ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-02-20 19:01 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2026-02-20 16:51 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2026-02-20 16:55 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2026-02-20 22:38 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-02-20 21:58 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-02-19 13:15 ` Marcelo Tosatti
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