linux-mm.kvack.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>
To: Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>
Cc: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	Qi Zheng <qi.zheng@linux.dev>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Meta kernel team <kernel-team@meta.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] memcg: use mod_node_page_state to update stats
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2026 14:45:51 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aYQuj6Ot-JS4tXvY@hyeyoo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4847c300-c7bb-4259-867c-4bbf4d760576@arm.com>

On Thu, Feb 05, 2026 at 10:50:06AM +0530, Dev Jain wrote:
> 
> On 05/02/26 2:08 am, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 02, 2026 at 02:23:54PM +0530, Dev Jain wrote:
> >> On 02/02/26 10:24 am, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> >>>>>> Hello Shakeel,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  We are seeing a regression in micromm/munmap benchmark with this patch, on arm64 -
> >>>>>>  the benchmark mmmaps a lot of memory, memsets it, and measures the time taken
> >>>>>>  to munmap. Please see below if my understanding of this patch is correct.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>  Thanks for the report. Are you seeing regression in just the benchmark
> >>>>>  or some real workload as well? Also how much regression are you seeing?
> >>>>>  I have a kernel rebot regression report [1] for this patch as well which
> >>>>>  says 2.6% regression and thus it was on the back-burner for now. I will
> >>>>>  take look at this again soon.
> >>>>>
> >>>> The munmap regression is ~24%. Haven't observed a regression in any other
> >>>> benchmark yet.
> >>> Please share the code/benchmark which shows such regression, also if you can
> >>> share the perf profile, that would be awesome.
> >> https://gitlab.arm.com/tooling/fastpath/-/blob/main/containers/microbench/micromm.c
> >> You can run this with
> >> ./micromm 0 munmap 10
> >>
> >> Don't have a perf profile, I measured the time taken by above command, with and
> >> without the patch.
> >>
> > Hi Dev, can you please try the following patch?
> >
> >
> > From 40155feca7e7bc846800ab8449735bdb03164d6d Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> > From: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
> > Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2026 08:46:08 -0800
> > Subject: [PATCH] vmstat: use preempt disable instead of try_cmpxchg
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
> > ---

[...snip...]

> 
> Thanks for looking into this.
> 
> But this doesn't solve it :( preempt_disable() contains a compiler barrier,
> probably that's why.

I think the reason why it doesn't solve the regression is because of how
arm64 implements this_cpu_add_8() and this_cpu_try_cmpxchg_8().

On arm64, IIUC both this_cpu_try_cmpxchg_8() and this_cpu_add_8() are
implemented using LL/SC instructions or LSE atomics (if supported).

See:
- this_cpu_add_8()
  -> __percpu_add_case_64
     (which is generated from PERCPU_OP)

- this_cpu_try_cmpxchg_8()
  -> __cpu_fallback_try_cmpxchg(..., this_cpu_cmpxchg_8)
  -> this_cpu_cmpxchg_8()
  -> cmpxchg_relaxed()
  -> raw_cmpxchg_relaxed()
  -> arch_cmpxchg_relaxed()
  -> __cmpxchg_wrapper()
  -> __cmpxchg_case_64()
  -> __lse_ll_sc_body(_cmpxchg_case_64, ...)

> Also can you confirm whether my analysis of the regression was correct?
> Because if it was, then this diff looks wrong - AFAIU preempt_disable()
> won't stop an irq handler from interrupting the execution, so this
> will introduce a bug for code paths running in irq context.

I was worried about the correctness too, but this_cpu_add() is safe
against IRQs and so the stat will be _eventually_ consistent?

Ofc it's so confusing! Maybe I'm the one confused.

-- 
Cheers,
Harry / Hyeonggon


  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-05  5:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-10 23:20 [PATCH 0/4] memcg: cleanup the memcg stats interfaces Shakeel Butt
2025-11-10 23:20 ` [PATCH 1/4] memcg: use mod_node_page_state to update stats Shakeel Butt
2025-11-11  1:39   ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-11 18:58   ` Roman Gushchin
2026-01-29 13:05   ` Dev Jain
2026-02-02  4:26     ` Shakeel Butt
2026-02-02  4:48       ` Dev Jain
2026-02-02  4:54         ` Shakeel Butt
2026-02-02  8:53           ` Dev Jain
2026-02-04 20:38             ` Shakeel Butt
2026-02-05  5:20               ` Dev Jain
2026-02-05  5:45                 ` Harry Yoo [this message]
2026-02-05  5:58                   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-02-10  7:38                     ` Dev Jain
2026-02-10 16:29                       ` Shakeel Butt
2026-02-11  7:37                         ` Dev Jain
2026-02-11  8:53                           ` Harry Yoo
2026-02-11  9:24                             ` Shakeel Butt
2026-02-11 10:14                               ` Harry Yoo
2026-02-12  5:16                               ` Dev Jain
2026-02-12  5:14                             ` Dev Jain
2026-02-12  1:31                     ` Shakeel Butt
2025-11-10 23:20 ` [PATCH 2/4] memcg: remove __mod_lruvec_kmem_state Shakeel Butt
2025-11-11  1:46   ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-11  8:23   ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-11 18:58   ` Roman Gushchin
2025-11-10 23:20 ` [PATCH 3/4] memcg: remove __mod_lruvec_state Shakeel Butt
2025-11-11  5:21   ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-11 18:58   ` Roman Gushchin
2025-11-10 23:20 ` [PATCH 4/4] memcg: remove __lruvec_stat_mod_folio Shakeel Butt
2025-11-11  5:41   ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-11 18:59   ` Roman Gushchin
2025-11-11  0:59 ` [PATCH 0/4] memcg: cleanup the memcg stats interfaces Harry Yoo
2025-11-11  2:23   ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-11  2:39     ` Shakeel Butt
2025-11-11  2:48       ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-11  3:00         ` Shakeel Butt
2025-11-11  3:07           ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-11  3:18             ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-11  3:29               ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-11  3:05         ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-11  8:01           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-11-11  8:36 ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-11 16:45   ` Shakeel Butt
2025-11-12  2:11     ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-11  9:54 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-11-11 19:01 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-11-11 19:34   ` Shakeel Butt
2025-11-15 19:27 ` Shakeel Butt

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=aYQuj6Ot-JS4tXvY@hyeyoo \
    --to=harry.yoo@oracle.com \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=cgroups@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=dev.jain@arm.com \
    --cc=hannes@cmpxchg.org \
    --cc=kernel-team@meta.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
    --cc=mhocko@kernel.org \
    --cc=muchun.song@linux.dev \
    --cc=qi.zheng@linux.dev \
    --cc=roman.gushchin@linux.dev \
    --cc=shakeel.butt@linux.dev \
    --cc=vbabka@suse.cz \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox