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From: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
To: "Cheatham, Benjamin" <benjamin.cheatham@amd.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org,
	nvdimm@lists.linux.dev, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@meta.com, dave@stgolabs.net,
	jonathan.cameron@huawei.com, dave.jiang@intel.com,
	alison.schofield@intel.com, vishal.l.verma@intel.com,
	ira.weiny@intel.com, dan.j.williams@intel.com,
	willy@infradead.org, jack@suse.cz, terry.bowman@amd.com,
	john@jagalactic.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 8/9] cxl/core: Add dax_kmem_region and sysram_region drivers
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2026 12:41:31 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aYDhyxjzKtbqFWdM@gourry-fedora-PF4VCD3F> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9652a424-6eb1-462f-8cbd-181af880f98b@amd.com>

On Mon, Feb 02, 2026 at 11:02:37AM -0600, Cheatham, Benjamin wrote:
> > 
> > For auto-regions:
> >    region_probe() eats it and you get the default behavior.
> > 
> > For non-auto regions:
> >    create_x_region generates an un-configured region and fails to probe
> >    until the user commits it and probes it.
> 
> I think this was the source of my misunderstanding. I was trying to understand how it
> works for auto regions when it's never meant to apply to them.
> 
> Sorry if this is a stupid question, but what stops auto regions from binding to the
> sysram/dax region drivers? They all bind to region devices, so I assume there's something
> keeping them from binding before the core region driver gets a chance.
> 

Auto regions explicitly use the dax_kmem path (all existing code,
unchanged)- which auto-plugs into dax/hotplug.

I do get what you're saying that everything binds on a region type,
I will look a little closer at this and see if there's something more
reasonable we can do.

I think i can update `region/bind` to use the sysram driver with
   online_type=mhp_default_online_type

so you'd end up with effective the auto-region logic:

cxlcli create-region -m ram ... existing argument set
------
    echo region0 > create_ram_region
    /* program decoders */
    echo region0 > region/bind
    /* 
     * region_bind():
     *    1) alloc sysram_region object
     *    2) sysram_regionN->online_type=mhp_default_online_type()
     *    3) add device to bus
     *    4) device auto-probes all the way down to dax
     *    5) dax auto-onlines with system default setting
     */
------

and Non-auto-region logic (approximation)

cxlcli creation-region -m ram --type sysram --online-type=movable
-----
   echo region0 > create_ram_region
   /* program decoders */
   echo region0 > sysram/bind
   echo online_movable > sysram_region0/online_type
   echo sysram_region0 > dax_kmem/bind
-----


I want to retain the dax_kmem driver because there may be multiple users
other than sysram.   For example, a compressed memory region wants to
utilize dax_kmem, but has its own complex policy (via N_MEMORY_PRIVATE)
so it doesn't want to abstract through sysram_region, but it does want
to abstract through dax_kmem.

weeeee "software defined memory" weeeee

~Gregory


  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-02 17:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-29 21:04 [PATCH 0/9] cxl: explicit DAX driver selection and hotplug Gregory Price
2026-01-29 21:04 ` [PATCH 1/9] mm/memory_hotplug: pass online_type to online_memory_block() via arg Gregory Price
2026-02-02 17:10   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-02-02 17:46     ` Gregory Price
2026-01-29 21:04 ` [PATCH 2/9] mm/memory_hotplug: add __add_memory_driver_managed() with online_type arg Gregory Price
2026-02-02 17:25   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-02-02 18:02     ` Gregory Price
2026-02-02 18:46       ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-02-02 21:37         ` Gregory Price
2026-02-04 21:08           ` David Hildenbrand (arm)
2026-02-05  4:23             ` Gregory Price
2026-01-29 21:04 ` [PATCH 3/9] dax: plumb online_type from dax_kmem creators to hotplug Gregory Price
2026-01-29 21:04 ` [PATCH 4/9] drivers/cxl,dax: add dax driver mode selection for dax regions Gregory Price
2026-02-02 17:54   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-01-29 21:04 ` [PATCH 5/9] cxl/core/region: move pmem region driver logic into pmem_region Gregory Price
2026-02-02 17:56   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-01-29 21:04 ` [PATCH 6/9] cxl/core/region: move dax region device logic into dax_region.c Gregory Price
2026-02-02 17:57   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-01-29 21:04 ` [PATCH 7/9] cxl/core: add cxl_devdax_region driver for explicit userland region binding Gregory Price
2026-01-29 21:04 ` [PATCH 8/9] cxl/core: Add dax_kmem_region and sysram_region drivers Gregory Price
2026-01-30 21:27   ` Cheatham, Benjamin
2026-01-30 22:12     ` Gregory Price
2026-02-02 17:02       ` Cheatham, Benjamin
2026-02-02 17:41         ` Gregory Price [this message]
2026-02-02 19:19         ` Gregory Price
2026-02-02 18:20   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-02-02 18:23     ` Gregory Price
2026-01-29 21:04 ` [PATCH 9/9] Documentation/driver-api/cxl: add dax and sysram driver documentation Gregory Price
2026-01-29 21:17 ` [PATCH 0/9] cxl: explicit DAX driver selection and hotplug Gregory Price
2026-01-30 17:34 ` Gregory Price

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