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From: Bing Jiao <bingjiao@google.com>
To: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
Cc: Akinobu Mita <akinobu.mita@gmail.com>,
	linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	axelrasmussen@google.com, yuanchu@google.com, weixugc@google.com,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, david@kernel.org, mhocko@kernel.org,
	zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com, shakeel.butt@linux.dev,
	lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com, Liam.Howlett@oracle.com,
	vbabka@suse.cz, rppt@kernel.org, surenb@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/3] mm/vmscan: don't demote if there is not enough free memory in the lower memory tier
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2026 23:28:59 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aXlKOxGGI9zne8sl@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aXkfBF5bdnTZ7t7e@gourry-fedora-PF4VCD3F>

On Tue, Jan 27, 2026 at 03:24:36PM -0500, Gregory Price wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 10, 2026 at 10:55:02PM +0900, Akinobu Mita wrote:
> > Since can_reclaim_anon_pages() checks whether there is free space on the swap
> > device before checking with can_demote(), I think the negative impact of this
> > change will be small. However, since I have not been able to confirm the
> > behavior when a swap device is available, I would like to correctly understand
> > the impact.
>
> Something else is going on here
>
> See demote_folio_list and alloc_demote_folio
>
> static unsigned int demote_folio_list(struct list_head *demote_folios,
>                                       struct pglist_data *pgdat,
>                                       struct mem_cgroup *memcg)
> {
>         struct migration_target_control mtc = {
>                  */
>                 .gfp_mask = (GFP_HIGHUSER_MOVABLE & ~__GFP_RECLAIM) |
>                         __GFP_NOMEMALLOC | GFP_NOWAIT,
>         };
> }
>
> static struct folio *alloc_demote_folio(struct folio *src,
>                 unsigned long private)
> {
> 	/* Only attempt to demote to the preferred node */
>         mtc->nmask = NULL;
>         mtc->gfp_mask |= __GFP_THISNODE;
>         dst = alloc_migration_target(src, (unsigned long)mtc);
>         if (dst)
>                 return dst;
>
> 	/* Now attempt to demote to any node in the lower tier */
>         mtc->gfp_mask &= ~__GFP_THISNODE;
>         mtc->nmask = allowed_mask;
>         return alloc_migration_target(src, (unsigned long)mtc);
> }
>
>
> /*
> * %__GFP_RECLAIM is shorthand to allow/forbid both direct and kswapd reclaim.
> */
>
>
> You basically shouldn't be hitting any reclaim behavior at all, and if
> the target nodes are actually under various watermarks, you should be
> getting allocation failures and quick-outs from the demotion logic.

Hi, Gregory, hope you are doing well.

I observed that during the allocation of a large folio,
alloc_migration_target() cleans __GFP_RECLAIM but subsequently applies
GFP_TRANSHUGE. Given that GFP_TRANSHUGE includes __GFP_DIRECT_RECLAIM,
I am wondering if this triggers a form of reclamation that should be
avoided during demotion.

struct folio *alloc_migration_target(struct folio *src, unsigned long private)
...
	if (folio_test_large(src)) {
		/*
		 * clear __GFP_RECLAIM to make the migration callback
		 * consistent with regular THP allocations.
		 */
		gfp_mask &= ~__GFP_RECLAIM;
		gfp_mask |= GFP_TRANSHUGE;
		order = folio_order(src);
	}

#define GFP_TRANSHUGE	(GFP_TRANSHUGE_LIGHT | __GFP_DIRECT_RECLAIM)

Best,
Bing


  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-27 23:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-08 10:15 [PATCH v3 0/3] mm: fix oom-killer not being invoked when demotion is enabled Akinobu Mita
2026-01-08 10:15 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] mm: memory-tiers, numa_emu: enable to create memory tiers using fake numa nodes Akinobu Mita
2026-01-08 15:47   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-01-10  3:47     ` Akinobu Mita
2026-01-09  4:43   ` Pratyush Brahma
2026-01-10  4:03     ` Akinobu Mita
2026-01-08 10:15 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] mm: numa_emu: add document for NUMA emulation Akinobu Mita
2026-01-08 15:51   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-01-08 10:15 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] mm/vmscan: don't demote if there is not enough free memory in the lower memory tier Akinobu Mita
2026-01-08 19:00   ` Andrew Morton
2026-01-09 16:07   ` Gregory Price
2026-01-10 13:55     ` Akinobu Mita
2026-01-27 20:24       ` Gregory Price
2026-01-27 23:28         ` Bing Jiao [this message]
2026-01-27 23:43           ` Gregory Price
2026-01-28  9:56         ` Michal Hocko
2026-01-28 14:21           ` Gregory Price
2026-01-28 21:14             ` Michal Hocko
2026-01-29  0:44         ` Akinobu Mita

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