From: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
To: Akinobu Mita <akinobu.mita@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/3] mm/vmscan: don't demote if there is not enough free memory in the lower memory tier
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2026 15:24:36 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aXkfBF5bdnTZ7t7e@gourry-fedora-PF4VCD3F> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC5umyhoMi_J_Ford2M_1fB-qCuPEDopAK1OF=AisZyDZ8duJQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Sat, Jan 10, 2026 at 10:55:02PM +0900, Akinobu Mita wrote:
> 2026年1月10日(土) 1:08 Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>:
> >
> > > + for_each_node_mask(nid, allowed_mask) {
> > > + int z;
> > > + struct zone *zone;
> > > + struct pglist_data *pgdat = NODE_DATA(nid);
> > > +
> > > + for_each_managed_zone_pgdat(zone, pgdat, z, MAX_NR_ZONES - 1) {
> > > + if (zone_watermark_ok(zone, 0, min_wmark_pages(zone),
> > > + ZONE_MOVABLE, 0))
> >
> > Why does this only check zone movable?
>
> Here, zone_watermark_ok() checks the free memory for all zones from 0 to
> MAX_NR_ZONES - 1.
> There is no strong reason to pass ZONE_MOVABLE as the highest_zoneidx
> argument every time zone_watermark_ok() is called; I can change it if an
> appropriate value is found.
> In v1, highest_zoneidx was "sc ? sc->reclaim_idx : MAX_NR_ZONES - 1"
>
> > Also, would this also limit pressure-signal to invoke reclaim when
> > there is still swap space available? Should demotion not be a pressure
> > source for triggering harder reclaim?
>
> Since can_reclaim_anon_pages() checks whether there is free space on the swap
> device before checking with can_demote(), I think the negative impact of this
> change will be small. However, since I have not been able to confirm the
> behavior when a swap device is available, I would like to correctly understand
> the impact.
Something else is going on here
See demote_folio_list and alloc_demote_folio
static unsigned int demote_folio_list(struct list_head *demote_folios,
struct pglist_data *pgdat,
struct mem_cgroup *memcg)
{
struct migration_target_control mtc = {
*/
.gfp_mask = (GFP_HIGHUSER_MOVABLE & ~__GFP_RECLAIM) |
__GFP_NOMEMALLOC | GFP_NOWAIT,
};
}
static struct folio *alloc_demote_folio(struct folio *src,
unsigned long private)
{
/* Only attempt to demote to the preferred node */
mtc->nmask = NULL;
mtc->gfp_mask |= __GFP_THISNODE;
dst = alloc_migration_target(src, (unsigned long)mtc);
if (dst)
return dst;
/* Now attempt to demote to any node in the lower tier */
mtc->gfp_mask &= ~__GFP_THISNODE;
mtc->nmask = allowed_mask;
return alloc_migration_target(src, (unsigned long)mtc);
}
/*
* %__GFP_RECLAIM is shorthand to allow/forbid both direct and kswapd reclaim.
*/
You basically shouldn't be hitting any reclaim behavior at all, and if
the target nodes are actually under various watermarks, you should be
getting allocation failures and quick-outs from the demotion logic.
i.e. you should be seeing OOM happen
When I dug in far enough I found this:
static struct folio *alloc_demote_folio(struct folio *src,
unsigned long private)
{
...
dst = alloc_migration_target(src, (unsigned long)mtc);
}
struct folio *alloc_migration_target(struct folio *src, unsigned long private)
{
...
if (folio_test_hugetlb(src)) {
struct hstate *h = folio_hstate(src);
gfp_mask = htlb_modify_alloc_mask(h, gfp_mask);
return alloc_hugetlb_folio_nodemask(h, nid, ...)
}
}
static inline gfp_t htlb_modify_alloc_mask(struct hstate *h, gfp_t gfp_mask)
{
gfp_t modified_mask = htlb_alloc_mask(h);
/* Some callers might want to enforce node */
modified_mask |= (gfp_mask & __GFP_THISNODE);
modified_mask |= (gfp_mask & __GFP_NOWARN);
return modified_mask;
}
/* Movability of hugepages depends on migration support. */
static inline gfp_t htlb_alloc_mask(struct hstate *h)
{
gfp_t gfp = __GFP_COMP | __GFP_NOWARN;
gfp |= hugepage_movable_supported(h) ? GFP_HIGHUSER_MOVABLE : GFP_HIGHUSER;
return gfp;
}
#define GFP_USER (__GFP_RECLAIM | __GFP_IO | __GFP_FS | __GFP_HARDWALL)
#define GFP_HIGHUSER (GFP_USER | __GFP_HIGHMEM)
#define GFP_HIGHUSER_MOVABLE (GFP_HIGHUSER | __GFP_MOVABLE | __GFP_SKIP_KASAN)
If we try to move a hugepage, we start including __GFP_RECLAIM again -
regardless of whether HIGHUSER_MOVABLE or HIGHUSER is used.
Any chance you are using hugetlb on this system? This looks like a
clear bug, but it may not be what you're experiencing.
~Gregory
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-27 20:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-08 10:15 [PATCH v3 0/3] mm: fix oom-killer not being invoked when demotion is enabled Akinobu Mita
2026-01-08 10:15 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] mm: memory-tiers, numa_emu: enable to create memory tiers using fake numa nodes Akinobu Mita
2026-01-08 15:47 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-01-10 3:47 ` Akinobu Mita
2026-01-09 4:43 ` Pratyush Brahma
2026-01-10 4:03 ` Akinobu Mita
2026-01-08 10:15 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] mm: numa_emu: add document for NUMA emulation Akinobu Mita
2026-01-08 15:51 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-01-08 10:15 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] mm/vmscan: don't demote if there is not enough free memory in the lower memory tier Akinobu Mita
2026-01-08 19:00 ` Andrew Morton
2026-01-09 16:07 ` Gregory Price
2026-01-10 13:55 ` Akinobu Mita
2026-01-27 20:24 ` Gregory Price [this message]
2026-01-27 23:28 ` Bing Jiao
2026-01-27 23:43 ` Gregory Price
2026-01-28 9:56 ` Michal Hocko
2026-01-28 14:21 ` Gregory Price
2026-01-28 21:14 ` Michal Hocko
2026-01-29 0:44 ` Akinobu Mita
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