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From: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>
To: "D. Wythe" <alibuda@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dust Li <dust.li@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Sidraya Jayagond <sidraya@linux.ibm.com>,
	Wenjia Zhang <wenjia@linux.ibm.com>,
	Mahanta Jambigi <mjambigi@linux.ibm.com>,
	Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	Tony Lu <tonylu@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Wen Gu <guwen@linux.alibaba.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, oliver.yang@linux.alibaba.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 2/3] mm: vmalloc: export find_vm_area()
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2026 11:28:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aXdB3lsm3w0fJT3Q@milan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260124145754.GA57116@j66a10360.sqa.eu95>

Hello, D. Wythe!

> > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 07:55:17PM +0100, Uladzislau Rezki wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 04:23:48PM +0800, D. Wythe wrote:
> > > > > find_vm_area() provides a way to find the vm_struct associated with a
> > > > > virtual address. Export this symbol to modules so that modularized
> > > > > subsystems can perform lookups on vmalloc addresses.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Signed-off-by: D. Wythe <alibuda@linux.alibaba.com>
> > > > > ---
> > > > >  mm/vmalloc.c | 1 +
> > > > >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
> > > > > 
> > > > > diff --git a/mm/vmalloc.c b/mm/vmalloc.c
> > > > > index ecbac900c35f..3eb9fe761c34 100644
> > > > > --- a/mm/vmalloc.c
> > > > > +++ b/mm/vmalloc.c
> > > > > @@ -3292,6 +3292,7 @@ struct vm_struct *find_vm_area(const void *addr)
> > > > >  
> > > > >  	return va->vm;
> > > > >  }
> > > > > +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(find_vm_area);
> > > > >  
> > > > This is internal. We can not just export it.
> > > > 
> > > > --
> > > > Uladzislau Rezki
> > > 
> > > Hi Uladzislau,
> > > 
> > > Thank you for the feedback. I agree that we should avoid exposing
> > > internal implementation details like struct vm_struct to external
> > > subsystems.
> > > 
> > > Following Christoph's suggestion, I'm planning to encapsulate the page
> > > order lookup into a minimal helper instead:
> > > 
> > > unsigned int vmalloc_page_order(const void *addr){
> > > 	struct vm_struct *vm;
> > >  	vm = find_vm_area(addr);
> > > 	return vm ? vm->page_order : 0;
> > > }
> > > EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(vmalloc_page_order);
> > > 
> > > Does this approach look reasonable to you? It would keep the vm_struct
> > > layout private while satisfying the optimization needs of SMC.
> > > 
> > Could you please clarify why you need info about page_order? I have not
> > looked at your second patch.
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > --
> > Uladzislau Rezki
> 
> Hi Uladzislau,
> 
> This stems from optimizing memory registration in SMC-R. To provide the
> RDMA hardware with direct access to memory buffers, we must register
> them with the NIC. During this process, the hardware generates one MTT
> entry for each physically contiguous block. Since these hardware entries
> are a finite and scarce resource, and SMC currently defaults to a 4KB
> registration granularity, a single 2MB buffer consumes 512 entries. In
> high-concurrency scenarios, this inefficiency quickly exhausts NIC
> resources and becomes a major bottleneck for system scalability.
> 
> To address this, we intend to use vmalloc_huge(). When it successfully
> allocates high-order pages, the vmalloc area is backed by a sequence of
> physically contiguous chunks (e.g., 2MB each). If we know this
> page_order, we can register these larger physical blocks instead of
> individual 4KB pages, reducing MTT consumption from 512 entries down to
> 1 for every 2MB of memory (with page_order == 9).
> 
> However, the result of vmalloc_huge() is currently opaque to the caller.
> We cannot determine whether it successfully allocated huge pages or fell
> back to 4KB pages based solely on the returned pointer. Therefore, we
> need a helper function to query the actual page order, enabling SMC-R to
> adapt its registration logic to the underlying physical layout.
> 
> I hope this clarifies our design motivation!
> 
Appreciate for the explanation. Yes it clarifies an intention.

As for proposed patch above:

- A page_order is available if CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_HUGE_VMALLOC is defined;
- It makes sense to get a node, grab a spin-lock and find VM, save
  page_order and release the lock.

You can have a look at the vmalloc_dump_obj(void *object) function.
We try-spinlock there whereas you need just spin-lock. But the idea
is the same.

--
Uladzislau Rezki


  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-26 10:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-23  8:23 [PATCH net-next 0/3] net/smc: buffer allocation and registration improvements D. Wythe
2026-01-23  8:23 ` [PATCH net-next 1/3] net/smc: cap allocation order for SMC-R physically contiguous buffers D. Wythe
2026-01-23 10:54   ` Alexandra Winter
2026-01-24  9:22     ` D. Wythe
2026-01-23  8:23 ` [PATCH net-next 2/3] mm: vmalloc: export find_vm_area() D. Wythe
2026-01-23 14:44   ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-23 18:55   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2026-01-24  9:35     ` D. Wythe
2026-01-24 10:48       ` Uladzislau Rezki
2026-01-24 14:57         ` D. Wythe
2026-01-26 10:28           ` Uladzislau Rezki [this message]
2026-01-26 12:02             ` D. Wythe
2026-01-26 16:45               ` Uladzislau Rezki
2026-01-27 13:34           ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-28  3:45             ` D. Wythe
2026-01-28 11:13               ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-28 12:44                 ` D. Wythe
2026-01-28 13:49                   ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-29 11:03                     ` D. Wythe
2026-01-29 12:22                       ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-29 14:04                         ` D. Wythe
2026-01-28 18:06               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-29 11:36                 ` D. Wythe
2026-01-29 13:20                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-30  8:51                     ` D. Wythe
2026-01-30 15:16                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-03  9:14                         ` D. Wythe
2026-01-23  8:23 ` [PATCH net-next 3/3] net/smc: optimize MTTE consumption for SMC-R buffers D. Wythe
2026-01-23 14:52   ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-24  9:25     ` D. Wythe

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