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From: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)" <david@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org,
	nvdimm@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux.dev, kernel-team@meta.com,
	dan.j.williams@intel.com, vishal.l.verma@intel.com,
	dave.jiang@intel.com, mst@redhat.com, jasowang@redhat.com,
	xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com, eperezma@redhat.com,
	osalvador@suse.de, akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/8] dax/kmem: add sysfs interface for runtime hotplug state control
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2026 19:43:38 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aXLEOjgVyGYAU_zk@gourry-fedora-PF4VCD3F> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <57c5f44f-3921-478b-843b-877fae536591@kernel.org>

On Thu, Jan 22, 2026 at 11:49:48PM +0100, David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) wrote:
> 
> I'm merely wondering why, in the new world, you would even want the offline
> state.
> 
> So what are the use cases for that?
> 

I don't have one, and in the 5-patch series I killed it.  You are right,
it makes no sense.

However:

> Why would user space possibly want that? [plugged-in offline blocks]
> 

I don't think anyone does.

This is baggage.

The CXL driver auto-creates dax_kmem w/ offline memory blocks

Changing this behavior breaks existing systems :[

> Can't ndctl just use the old (existing) interface if such an operation is
> requested, and the new one (you want to add) when we want to do something
> reasonable (actually use system ram? :) ).

I think we're in agreement, I think I'm doing a poor job of explaining
the interconnected issues.

summarizing the long email:

   cxl/region + dax/cxl.c + dax/bus.c auto-probe baggage for
   BIOS-configured regions prevents any userland policy from
   from being plumbed from cxl to dax.  There's no interposition step.

So yes - new interfaces would resolve this and the old interfaces
could be left for compat.

~Gregory


  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-23  4:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-14  8:51 Subject: [PATCH 0/8] dax/kmem: add " Gregory Price
2026-01-14  8:51 ` [PATCH 1/8] mm/memory_hotplug: pass online_type to online_memory_block() via arg Gregory Price
2026-01-14  9:46   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-14  8:51 ` [PATCH 2/8] mm/memory_hotplug: extract __add_memory_resource() and __offline_memory() Gregory Price
2026-01-14 10:14   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-14 17:11     ` Gregory Price
2026-01-14  8:51 ` [PATCH 3/8] mm/memory_hotplug: add APIs for explicit online type control Gregory Price
2026-01-14 10:21   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-14 17:27     ` Gregory Price
2026-01-22 22:41       ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-23  0:34         ` Gregory Price
2026-01-23 18:25           ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-01-23 19:12             ` Gregory Price
2026-01-27 23:06               ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-27 23:31                 ` Gregory Price
2026-01-14  8:51 ` [PATCH 4/8] mm/memory_hotplug: return online type from add_memory_driver_managed() Gregory Price
2026-01-14 10:49   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-14 17:28     ` Gregory Price
2026-01-14  8:51 ` [PATCH 5/8] dax/kmem: extract hotplug/hotremove helper functions Gregory Price
2026-01-14  8:51 ` [PATCH 6/8] dax/kmem: add online/offline " Gregory Price
2026-01-14  8:51 ` [PATCH 7/8] dax/kmem: add sysfs interface for runtime hotplug state control Gregory Price
2026-01-14 10:55   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-14 17:32     ` Gregory Price
2026-01-14 18:11     ` Gregory Price
2026-01-22 22:49       ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-23  0:43         ` Gregory Price [this message]
2026-01-27 23:06           ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-14  8:52 ` [PATCH 8/8] dax/kmem: add memory notifier to block external state changes Gregory Price
2026-01-14  9:44   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-14 17:07     ` Gregory Price
2026-01-22 22:44       ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-14 17:36     ` Gregory Price

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