From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 29/33] sched/arm64: Move fallback task cpumask to HK_TYPE_DOMAIN
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2026 12:29:17 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aXIKDduX5qUXvOUX@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aXH0TZU7UNowTmwc@willie-the-truck>
Le Thu, Jan 22, 2026 at 09:56:29AM +0000, Will Deacon a écrit :
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2026 at 06:06:07PM +0100, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > Le Tue, Jan 20, 2026 at 03:15:14PM +0000, Will Deacon a écrit :
> > > Hi Frederic,
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 01, 2026 at 11:13:54PM +0100, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > > > When none of the allowed CPUs of a task are online, it gets migrated
> > > > to the fallback cpumask which is all the non nohz_full CPUs.
> > > >
> > > > However just like nohz_full CPUs, domain isolated CPUs don't want to be
> > > > disturbed by tasks that have lost their CPU affinities.
> > > >
> > > > And since nohz_full rely on domain isolation to work correctly, the
> > > > housekeeping mask of domain isolated CPUs should always be a superset of
> > > > the housekeeping mask of nohz_full CPUs (there can be CPUs that are
> > > > domain isolated but not nohz_full, OTOH there shouldn't be nohz_full
> > > > CPUs that are not domain isolated):
> > > >
> > > > HK_TYPE_DOMAIN | HK_TYPE_KERNEL_NOISE == HK_TYPE_DOMAIN
> > > >
> > > > Therefore use HK_TYPE_DOMAIN as the appropriate fallback target for
> > > > tasks and since this cpumask can be modified at runtime, make sure
> > > > that 32 bits support CPUs on ARM64 mismatched systems are not isolated
> > > > by cpusets.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
> > > > Reviewed-by: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
> > > > ---
> > > > arch/arm64/kernel/cpufeature.c | 18 +++++++++++++++---
> > > > include/linux/cpu.h | 4 ++++
> > > > kernel/cgroup/cpuset.c | 17 ++++++++++++++---
> > > > 3 files changed, 33 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > tbh, I'd also be fine just saying that isolation isn't reliable on these
> > > systems and then you don't need to add the extra arch hook.
> >
> > Hmm, I think I heard about nohz_full usage on arm64 but I'm not sure.
> > And I usually expect isolcpus or cpuset isolated partitions to be even
> > more broadly used, it's lighter isolation with less constraints.
> >
> > Anyway you're probably right that we could remove isolation support here
> > but I don't want to break any existing user.
>
> fwiw, I think it's only some Android markets using the mismatched 32-bit
> support and we're definitely not using nohz_full there.
Now that removal becomes appealing. And what about isolcpus= / isolated cpuset
which only consist in scheduler domain isolation? Probably not used by android
either.
Ok but is there a way to detect on early boot that the system has mismatched
32 bits support? Because I need to fail nohz_full= and isolcpus= boot parameters
early on top of this information without waiting for secondary CPUs boot.
Thanks.
--
Frederic Weisbecker
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-22 11:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-01 22:13 [PATCH 00/33 v6] cpuset/isolation: Honour kthreads preferred affinity Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-01 22:13 ` [PATCH 01/33] PCI: Prepare to protect against concurrent isolated cpuset change Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-07 19:05 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2026-01-07 23:30 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-07 23:39 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2026-01-08 8:43 ` Jinhui Guo
2026-01-22 16:14 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2026-01-01 22:13 ` [PATCH 02/33] cpu: Revert "cpu/hotplug: Prevent self deadlock on CPU hot-unplug" Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-01 22:13 ` [PATCH 03/33] memcg: Prepare to protect against concurrent isolated cpuset change Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-01 22:13 ` [PATCH 04/33] mm: vmstat: " Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-01 22:13 ` [PATCH 05/33] sched/isolation: Save boot defined domain flags Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-12 18:03 ` Waiman Long
2026-01-01 22:13 ` [PATCH 06/33] cpuset: Convert boot_hk_cpus to use HK_TYPE_DOMAIN_BOOT Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-01 22:13 ` [PATCH 07/33] driver core: cpu: Convert /sys/devices/system/cpu/isolated " Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-01 22:13 ` [PATCH 08/33] net: Keep ignoring isolated cpuset change Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-01 22:13 ` [PATCH 09/33] block: Protect against concurrent " Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-01 22:13 ` [PATCH 10/33] timers/migration: Prevent from lockdep false positive warning Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-01 22:13 ` [PATCH 11/33] cpu: Provide lockdep check for CPU hotplug lock write-held Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-01 22:13 ` [PATCH 12/33] cpuset: Provide lockdep check for cpuset lock held Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-12 1:43 ` Waiman Long
2026-01-12 17:53 ` Waiman Long
2026-01-01 22:13 ` [PATCH 13/33] sched/isolation: Convert housekeeping cpumasks to rcu pointers Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-07 11:56 ` Simon Horman
2026-01-12 2:45 ` Waiman Long
2026-01-12 21:34 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-01 22:13 ` [PATCH 14/33] cpuset: Update HK_TYPE_DOMAIN cpumask from cpuset Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-22 11:24 ` Chen Ridong
2026-01-01 22:13 ` [PATCH 15/33] sched/isolation: Flush memcg workqueues on cpuset isolated partition change Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-01 22:13 ` [PATCH 16/33] sched/isolation: Flush vmstat " Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-01 22:13 ` [PATCH 17/33] PCI: Flush PCI probe workqueue " Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-22 16:14 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2026-01-01 22:13 ` [PATCH 18/33] cpuset: Propagate cpuset isolation update to workqueue through housekeeping Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-01 22:13 ` [PATCH 19/33] cpuset: Propagate cpuset isolation update to timers " Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-01 22:13 ` [PATCH 20/33] timers/migration: Remove superfluous cpuset isolation test Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-01 22:13 ` [PATCH 21/33] cpuset: Remove cpuset_cpu_is_isolated() Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-01 22:13 ` [PATCH 22/33] sched/isolation: Remove HK_TYPE_TICK test from cpu_is_isolated() Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-01 22:13 ` [PATCH 23/33] PCI: Remove superfluous HK_TYPE_WQ check Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-22 16:15 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2026-01-01 22:13 ` [PATCH 24/33] kthread: Refine naming of affinity related fields Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-01 22:13 ` [PATCH 25/33] kthread: Include unbound kthreads in the managed affinity list Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-01 22:13 ` [PATCH 26/33] kthread: Include kthreadd to " Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-01 22:13 ` [PATCH 27/33] kthread: Rely on HK_TYPE_DOMAIN for preferred affinity management Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-01 22:13 ` [PATCH 28/33] sched: Switch the fallback task allowed cpumask to HK_TYPE_DOMAIN Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-01 22:13 ` [PATCH 29/33] sched/arm64: Move fallback task " Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-20 15:15 ` Will Deacon
2026-01-21 17:06 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-22 9:56 ` Will Deacon
2026-01-22 11:29 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2026-01-22 11:36 ` Will Deacon
2026-01-22 14:25 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-01 22:13 ` [PATCH 30/33] kthread: Honour kthreads preferred affinity after cpuset changes Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-01 22:13 ` [PATCH 31/33] kthread: Comment on the purpose and placement of kthread_affine_node() call Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-01 22:13 ` [PATCH 32/33] kthread: Document kthread_affine_preferred() Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-01 22:13 ` [PATCH 33/33] doc: Add housekeeping documentation Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-12 18:23 ` [PATCH 00/33 v6] cpuset/isolation: Honour kthreads preferred affinity Waiman Long
2026-01-12 22:09 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-13 1:49 ` Waiman Long
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2026-01-25 22:45 [PATCH 00/33 v7] " Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-25 22:45 ` [PATCH 29/33] sched/arm64: Move fallback task cpumask to HK_TYPE_DOMAIN Frederic Weisbecker
2026-01-26 13:52 ` Will Deacon
2025-12-24 13:44 [PATCH 00/33 v5] cpuset/isolation: Honour kthreads preferred affinity Frederic Weisbecker
2025-12-24 13:45 ` [PATCH 29/33] sched/arm64: Move fallback task cpumask to HK_TYPE_DOMAIN Frederic Weisbecker
2025-12-26 23:46 ` Waiman Long
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