From: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)" <david@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org,
nvdimm@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
virtualization@lists.linux.dev, kernel-team@meta.com,
dan.j.williams@intel.com, vishal.l.verma@intel.com,
dave.jiang@intel.com, mst@redhat.com, jasowang@redhat.com,
xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com, eperezma@redhat.com,
osalvador@suse.de, akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/8] dax/kmem: add sysfs interface for runtime hotplug state control
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2026 13:11:46 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aWfcYjZVrROHfGyh@gourry-fedora-PF4VCD3F> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3555385d-23de-492c-8192-a991f91d4343@kernel.org>
On Wed, Jan 14, 2026 at 11:55:21AM +0100, David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) wrote:
> On 1/14/26 09:51, Gregory Price wrote:
> > The dax kmem driver currently onlines memory automatically during
> > probe using the system's default online policy but provides no way
> > to control or query the memory state at runtime. Users cannot change
> > the online type after probe, and there's no atomic way to offline and
> > remove memory blocks together.
> >
> > Add a new 'hotplug' sysfs attribute that allows userspace to control
> > and query the memory state. The interface supports the following states:
> >
> > - "offline": memory is added but not online
> > - "online": memory is online as normal system RAM
> > - "online_movable": memory is online in ZONE_MOVABLE
> > - "unplug": memory is offlined and removed
> >
> > The initial state after probe uses MMOP_SYSTEM_DEFAULT to preserve
> > backwards compatibility - existing systems with auto-online policies
> > will continue to work as before.
> >
> > The state machine enforces valid transitions:
> > - From offline: can transition to online, online_movable, or unplug
> > - From online/online_movable: can transition to offline or unplug
> > - Cannot switch directly between online and online_movable
>
> Do we have to support these transitions right from the start?
>
> What are the use cases for adding memory as offline and then onlining it,
> and why do we have to support that through this interface?
>
After a re-read of the feedback - are you suggested to basically kill the
entire offline state of blocks entirely? (e.g. if a driver calls to
offline a block, instead fully unplug it)
I took a look at the acpi and ppc code you suggested, and I think they
also have "expect offline then online" as a default expectation. I
can't speak to those users requirements.
This would definitely break things like daxctl/ndctl, but maybe that's
preferable? I pointed out that patch 8 does this anyway - and I'd like
input from ndctl folks as to whether that should end in a NACK.
~Gregory
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-14 18:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-14 8:51 Subject: [PATCH 0/8] dax/kmem: add " Gregory Price
2026-01-14 8:51 ` [PATCH 1/8] mm/memory_hotplug: pass online_type to online_memory_block() via arg Gregory Price
2026-01-14 9:46 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-14 8:51 ` [PATCH 2/8] mm/memory_hotplug: extract __add_memory_resource() and __offline_memory() Gregory Price
2026-01-14 10:14 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-14 17:11 ` Gregory Price
2026-01-14 8:51 ` [PATCH 3/8] mm/memory_hotplug: add APIs for explicit online type control Gregory Price
2026-01-14 10:21 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-14 17:27 ` Gregory Price
2026-01-14 8:51 ` [PATCH 4/8] mm/memory_hotplug: return online type from add_memory_driver_managed() Gregory Price
2026-01-14 10:49 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-14 17:28 ` Gregory Price
2026-01-14 8:51 ` [PATCH 5/8] dax/kmem: extract hotplug/hotremove helper functions Gregory Price
2026-01-14 8:51 ` [PATCH 6/8] dax/kmem: add online/offline " Gregory Price
2026-01-14 8:51 ` [PATCH 7/8] dax/kmem: add sysfs interface for runtime hotplug state control Gregory Price
2026-01-14 10:55 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-14 17:32 ` Gregory Price
2026-01-14 18:11 ` Gregory Price [this message]
2026-01-14 8:52 ` [PATCH 8/8] dax/kmem: add memory notifier to block external state changes Gregory Price
2026-01-14 9:44 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-14 17:07 ` Gregory Price
2026-01-14 17:36 ` Gregory Price
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