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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Akinobu Mita <akinobu.mita@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] mm/vmscan: don't demote if there is not enough free memory in the lower memory tier
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2026 14:40:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aWZLZzo5Hb1aFZ0j@tiehlicka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260113081453.8293-4-akinobu.mita@gmail.com>

On Tue 13-01-26 17:14:53, Akinobu Mita wrote:
> On systems with multiple memory-tiers consisting of DRAM and CXL memory,
> the OOM killer is not invoked properly.
> 
> Here's the command to reproduce:
> 
> $ sudo swapoff -a
> $ stress-ng --oomable -v --memrate 20 --memrate-bytes 10G \
>     --memrate-rd-mbs 1 --memrate-wr-mbs 1
> 
> The memory usage is the number of workers specified with the --memrate
> option multiplied by the buffer size specified with the --memrate-bytes
> option, so please adjust it so that it exceeds the total size of the
> installed DRAM and CXL memory.
> 
> If swap is disabled, you can usually expect the OOM killer to terminate
> the stress-ng process when memory usage approaches the installed memory
> size.
> 
> However, if multiple memory-tiers exist (multiple
> /sys/devices/virtual/memory_tiering/memory_tier<N> directories exist) and
> /sys/kernel/mm/numa/demotion_enabled is true, the OOM killer will not be
> invoked and the system will become inoperable, regardless of whether MGLRU
> is enabled or not.
> 
> This issue can be reproduced using NUMA emulation even on systems with
> only DRAM.  You can create two-fake memory-tiers by booting a single-node
> system with "numa=fake=2 numa_emulation.adistance=576,704" kernel
> parameters.
> 
> The reason for this issue is that memory allocations do not directly
> trigger the oom-killer, assuming that if the target node has an underlying
> memory tier, it can always be reclaimed by demotion.

Why don't we fall back to no demotion mode in this case? I mean we have 
shrink_folio_list:
        if (!list_empty(&demote_folios)) {
                /* Folios which weren't demoted go back on @folio_list */
                list_splice_init(&demote_folios, folio_list);

                /*
                 * goto retry to reclaim the undemoted folios in folio_list if
                 * desired.
                 *
                 * Reclaiming directly from top tier nodes is not often desired
                 * due to it breaking the LRU ordering: in general memory
                 * should be reclaimed from lower tier nodes and demoted from
                 * top tier nodes.
                 *
                 * However, disabling reclaim from top tier nodes entirely
                 * would cause ooms in edge scenarios where lower tier memory
                 * is unreclaimable for whatever reason, eg memory being
                 * mlocked or too hot to reclaim. We can disable reclaim
                 * from top tier nodes in proactive reclaim though as that is
                 * not real memory pressure.
                 */
                if (!sc->proactive) {
                        do_demote_pass = false;
                        goto retry;
                }
        }

to handle this situation no?

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


      reply	other threads:[~2026-01-13 13:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-13  8:14 [PATCH v4 0/3] mm: fix oom-killer not being invoked when demotion is enabled Akinobu Mita
2026-01-13  8:14 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] mm: memory-tiers, numa_emu: enable to create memory tiers using fake numa nodes Akinobu Mita
2026-01-13  9:30   ` Pratyush Brahma
2026-01-13  8:14 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] mm: numa_emu: add document for NUMA emulation Akinobu Mita
2026-01-13  9:32   ` Pratyush Brahma
2026-01-13  8:14 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] mm/vmscan: don't demote if there is not enough free memory in the lower memory tier Akinobu Mita
2026-01-13 13:40   ` Michal Hocko [this message]

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