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From: Matt Bobrowski <mattbobrowski@google.com>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	JP Kobryn <inwardvessel@gmail.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v4 3/6] mm: introduce bpf_get_root_mem_cgroup() BPF kfunc
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2026 21:04:17 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aVwnUUXmgE1uOOj4@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAADnVQJr0WqmqA2fQeC0=Jn5F-ujWmUkL-GfT6Jbv8jiQwCAMw@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jan 05, 2026 at 08:05:54AM -0800, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 4, 2026 at 11:49 PM Matt Bobrowski <mattbobrowski@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > No need for a new KF flag. Any struct returned by kfunc should be
> > > trusted or trusted_or_null if KF_RET_NULL was specified.
> > > I don't remember off the top of my head, but this behavior
> > > is already implemented or we discussed making it this way.
> >
> > Hm, I do not see any evidence of this kind of semantic currently
> > implemented, so perhaps it was only discussed at some point. Would you
> > like me to put forward a patch that introduces this kind of implicit
> > trust semantic for BPF kfuncs returning pointer to struct types?
> 
> Hmm. What about these:
> BTF_ID_FLAGS(func, scx_bpf_cpu_rq)
> BTF_ID_FLAGS(func, scx_bpf_locked_rq, KF_RET_NULL)
> BTF_ID_FLAGS(func, scx_bpf_cpu_curr, KF_RET_NULL | KF_RCU_PROTECTED)
> 
> I thought they're returning a trusted pointer without acquiring it.
> iirc the last one returns trusted in RCU CS,
> but the first two return just a legacy ptr_to_btf_id ?
> This is something to fix asap then.

No, AFAIU they do not. These simply return a regular pointer to BTF ID
(PTR_TO_BTF_ID), rather than a formally "trusted" pointer (which would
carry the PTR_TRUSTED flag or a ref_obj_id). scx_bpf_cpu_curr returns
a MEM_RCU pointer (via KF_RCU_PROTECTED), which is somewhat considered
to be trusted within a RCU read-side critical section *ONLY*.

Kumar/Tejun,

Please keep me honest here.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-05 21:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-23  4:41 [PATCH bpf-next v4 0/6] mm: bpf kfuncs to access memcg data Roman Gushchin
2025-12-23  4:41 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 1/6] mm: declare memcg_page_state_output() in memcontrol.h Roman Gushchin
2025-12-23  4:41 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 2/6] mm: introduce BPF kfuncs to deal with memcg pointers Roman Gushchin
2025-12-23  4:41 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 3/6] mm: introduce bpf_get_root_mem_cgroup() BPF kfunc Roman Gushchin
2025-12-30 20:27   ` Matt Bobrowski
2025-12-30 21:00     ` Roman Gushchin
2025-12-31  7:41       ` Matt Bobrowski
2025-12-31 17:02         ` Roman Gushchin
2025-12-31 17:32         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-05  7:49           ` Matt Bobrowski
2026-01-05 16:05             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-05 21:04               ` Matt Bobrowski [this message]
2026-01-06 15:13                 ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2026-01-07  9:29                   ` Matt Bobrowski
2025-12-23  4:41 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 4/6] mm: introduce BPF kfuncs to access memcg statistics and events Roman Gushchin
2025-12-23  4:41 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 5/6] bpf: selftests: selftests for memcg stat kfuncs Roman Gushchin
2025-12-23  4:41 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 6/6] MAINTAINERS: add an entry for MM BPF extensions Roman Gushchin
2025-12-23 19:25 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 0/6] mm: bpf kfuncs to access memcg data Alexei Starovoitov
2025-12-23 19:57   ` Roman Gushchin
2025-12-24  3:41   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-12-23 19:46 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-12-24  3:01 ` Yafang Shao
2025-12-25  1:16   ` Roman Gushchin

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