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From: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
To: Gladyshev Ilya <gladyshev.ilya1@h-partners.com>
Cc: patchwork@huawei.com, guohanjun@huawei.com,
	wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com, weiyongjun1@huawei.com,
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	baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com, muchun.song@linux.dev,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] mm: implement page refcount locking via dedicated bit
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2025 13:17:03 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aUWWn3YMOrPdyY_c@gourry-fedora-PF4VCD3F> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <81e3c45f49bdac231e831ec7ba09ef42fbb77930.1766145604.git.gladyshev.ilya1@h-partners.com>

On Fri, Dec 19, 2025 at 12:46:39PM +0000, Gladyshev Ilya wrote:
> The current atomic-based page refcount implementation treats zero
> counter as dead and requires a compare-and-swap loop in folio_try_get()
> to prevent incrementing a dead refcount. This CAS loop acts as a
> serialization point and can become a significant bottleneck during
> high-frequency file read operations.
> 
> This patch introduces FOLIO_LOCKED_BIT to distinguish between a
> (temporary) zero refcount and a locked (dead/frozen) state. Because now
> incrementing counter doesn't affect it's locked/unlocked state, it is
> possible to use an optimistic atomic_fetch_add() in
> page_ref_add_unless_zero() that operates independently of the locked bit.
> The locked state is handled after the increment attempt, eliminating the
> need for the CAS loop.
>

Such a fundamental change needs additional validation to show there's no
obvious failures.  Have you run this through a model checker to verify
the only failure condition is the 2^31 overflow condition you describe?

A single benchmark and a short changelog is leaves me very uneasy about
such a change.

~Gregory


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-12-19 18:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-19 12:46 [RFC PATCH 0/2] mm: improve folio refcount scalability Gladyshev Ilya
2025-12-19 12:46 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] mm: make ref_unless functions unless_zero only Gladyshev Ilya
2025-12-19 12:46 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] mm: implement page refcount locking via dedicated bit Gladyshev Ilya
2025-12-19 14:50   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-19 16:18     ` Gladyshev Ilya
2025-12-19 17:46       ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-19 19:08         ` Gladyshev Ilya
2025-12-22 13:33           ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-19 18:17   ` Gregory Price [this message]
2025-12-22 12:42     ` Gladyshev Ilya

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