From: Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)" <david@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Nick Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>, Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
Laurence Oberman <loberman@redhat.com>,
Prakash Sangappa <prakash.sangappa@oracle.com>,
Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>,
Liu Shixin <liushixin2@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/4] mm/hugetlb: fix two comments related to huge_pmd_unshare()
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2025 20:20:45 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aUU1DY4206FibsLf@hyeyoo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <506fef86-5c3b-490e-94f9-2eb6c9c47834@kernel.org>
On Fri, Dec 19, 2025 at 07:11:00AM +0100, David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) wrote:
> On 12/19/25 05:44, Harry Yoo wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 12, 2025 at 08:10:17AM +0100, David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) wrote:
> > > Ever since we stopped using the page count to detect shared PMD
> > > page tables, these comments are outdated.
> > >
> > > The only reason we have to flush the TLB early is because once we drop
> > > the i_mmap_rwsem, the previously shared page table could get freed (to
> > > then get reallocated and used for other purpose). So we really have to
> > > flush the TLB before that could happen.
> > >
> > > So let's simplify the comments a bit.
> > >
> > > The "If we unshared PMDs, the TLB flush was not recorded in mmu_gather."
> > > part introduced as in commit a4a118f2eead ("hugetlbfs: flush TLBs
> > > correctly after huge_pmd_unshare") was confusing: sure it is recorded
> > > in the mmu_gather, otherwise tlb_flush_mmu_tlbonly() wouldn't do
> > > anything. So let's drop that comment while at it as well.
> > >
> > > We'll centralize these comments in a single helper as we rework the code
> > > next.
> > >
> > > Fixes: 59d9094df3d7 ("mm: hugetlb: independent PMD page table shared count")
> > > Reviewed-by: Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>
> > > Tested-by: Laurence Oberman <loberman@redhat.com>
> > > Reviewed-by: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
> > > Acked-by: Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>
> > > Cc: Liu Shixin <liushixin2@huawei.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) <david@kernel.org>
> > > ---
> >
> > Looks good to me,
> > Reviewed-by: Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>
> >
> > with a question below.
>
> Hi Harry,
>
> thanks for the review!
No problem!
I would love to review more, as long as my time & ability allows ;)
> > > mm/hugetlb.c | 24 ++++++++----------------
> > > 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/mm/hugetlb.c b/mm/hugetlb.c
> > > index 51273baec9e5d..3c77cdef12a32 100644
> > > --- a/mm/hugetlb.c
> > > +++ b/mm/hugetlb.c
> > > @@ -5304,17 +5304,10 @@ void __unmap_hugepage_range(struct mmu_gather *tlb, struct vm_area_struct *vma,
> > > tlb_end_vma(tlb, vma);
> > > /*
> > > - * If we unshared PMDs, the TLB flush was not recorded in mmu_gather. We
> > > - * could defer the flush until now, since by holding i_mmap_rwsem we
> > > - * guaranteed that the last reference would not be dropped. But we must
> > > - * do the flushing before we return, as otherwise i_mmap_rwsem will be
> > > - * dropped and the last reference to the shared PMDs page might be
> > > - * dropped as well.
> > > - *
> > > - * In theory we could defer the freeing of the PMD pages as well, but
> > > - * huge_pmd_unshare() relies on the exact page_count for the PMD page to
> > > - * detect sharing, so we cannot defer the release of the page either.
> > > - * Instead, do flush now.
> >
> > Does this mean we can now try defer-freeing of these page tables,
> > and if so, would it be worth it?
>
> There is one very tricky thing:
>
> Whoever is the last owner of a (previously) shared page table must unmap any
> contained pages (adjust mapcount/ref, sync a/d bit, ...).
Right.
> So it's not just a matter of deferring the freeing, because these page tables
> will still contain content.
I was (and maybe still) bit confused while reading the old comment as
it implied (or maybe I just misread) that by deferring freeing of page tables
we don't have to flush TLB in __unmap_hugepage_range() and can flush later
instead.
> I first tried to never allow for reuse of shared page tables, but precisely
> that resulted in most headakes.
I see your pain there...
> So I don't see an easy way to achieve that (and I'm also not sure if we want
> to add any further complexity to this).
Fair enough.
Thanks for answering!
> --
> Cheers
>
> David
--
Cheers,
Harry / Hyeonggon
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-12-19 11:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-12-12 7:10 [PATCH v2 0/4] mm/hugetlb: fixes for PMD table sharing (incl. using mmu_gather) David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-12 7:10 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] mm/hugetlb: fix hugetlb_pmd_shared() David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-12 7:10 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] mm/hugetlb: fix two comments related to huge_pmd_unshare() David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-19 4:44 ` Harry Yoo
2025-12-19 6:11 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-19 11:20 ` Harry Yoo [this message]
2025-12-19 14:13 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-19 21:37 ` Nadav Amit
2025-12-21 9:26 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-12 7:10 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] mm/rmap: " David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-12 7:10 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] mm/hugetlb: fix excessive IPI broadcasts when unsharing PMD tables using mmu_gather David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-16 10:47 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-12-19 12:37 ` Harry Yoo
2025-12-19 13:52 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-19 13:59 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-21 12:24 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-22 2:09 ` Harry Yoo
2025-12-22 10:10 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
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