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From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 3/4] hazptr: Implement Hazard Pointers
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2025 09:43:39 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aUSfu4V9mrD7BQGl@tardis-2.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fcbc99d0-b7c7-45f7-9cf8-f5d3bfad966e@efficios.com>

On Thu, Dec 18, 2025 at 12:35:18PM -0500, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
[...]
> > Could you utilize this[1] to see a
> > comparison of the reader-side performance against RCU/SRCU?
> 
> Good point ! Let's see.
> 
> On a AMD 2x EPYC 9654 96-Core Processor with 192 cores,
> hyperthreading disabled,
> CONFIG_PREEMPT=y,
> CONFIG_PREEMPT_RCU=y,
> CONFIG_PREEMPT_HAZPTR=y.
> 
> scale_type                 ns
> -----------------------
> hazptr-smp-mb             13.1   <- this implementation
> hazptr-barrier            11.5   <- replace smp_mb() on acquire with barrier(), requires IPIs on synchronize.
> hazptr-smp-mb-hlist       12.7   <- replace per-task hp context and per-cpu overflow lists by hlist.
> rcu                       17.0

Hmm.. now looking back, how is it possible that hazptr is faster than
RCU on the reader-side? Because a grace period was happening and
triggered rcu_read_unlock_special()? This is actualy more interesting.

Regards,
Boqun

> srcu                      20.0
> srcu-fast                  1.5
> rcu-tasks                  0.0
> rcu-trace                  1.7
> refcnt                  1148.0
> rwlock                  1190.0
> rwsem                   4199.3
> lock                   41070.6
> lock-irq               46176.3
> acqrel                     1.1
> 
> So only srcu-fast, rcu-tasks, rcu-trace and a plain acqrel
> appear to beat hazptr read-side performance.
> 
> [...]
> 
[...]


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-12-19  0:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-18  1:45 [RFC PATCH v4 0/4] " Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-12-18  1:45 ` [RFC PATCH v4 1/4] compiler.h: Introduce ptr_eq() to preserve address dependency Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-12-18  9:03   ` David Laight
2025-12-18 13:51     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-12-18 15:54       ` David Laight
2025-12-18 14:27     ` Gary Guo
2025-12-18 16:12       ` David Laight
2025-12-18  1:45 ` [RFC PATCH v4 2/4] Documentation: RCU: Refer to ptr_eq() Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-12-18  1:45 ` [RFC PATCH v4 3/4] hazptr: Implement Hazard Pointers Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-12-18  8:36   ` Boqun Feng
2025-12-18 17:35     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-12-18 20:22       ` Boqun Feng
2025-12-18 23:36         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-12-19  0:25           ` Boqun Feng
2025-12-19  6:06             ` Joel Fernandes
2025-12-19 15:14             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-12-19 15:42               ` Joel Fernandes
2025-12-19 22:19                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-12-19 22:39                   ` Joel Fernandes
2025-12-21  9:59                     ` Boqun Feng
2025-12-19  0:43       ` Boqun Feng [this message]
2025-12-19 14:22         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-12-19  1:22   ` Joel Fernandes
2025-12-18  1:45 ` [RFC PATCH v4 4/4] hazptr: Migrate per-CPU slots to backup slot on context switch Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-12-18 16:20   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-12-18 22:16   ` Boqun Feng
2025-12-19  0:21     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-12-18 10:33 ` [RFC PATCH v4 0/4] Hazard Pointers Joel Fernandes
2025-12-18 17:54   ` Mathieu Desnoyers

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