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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
Cc: Yeoreum Yun <yeoreum.yun@arm.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, david@kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] arm64: mmu: use pagetable_alloc_nolock() while stop_machine()
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2025 13:17:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aUPw1YFNLf7ONqe9@tiehlicka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0d08b4bf-35c5-4c63-964b-ef886b8262d9@arm.com>

On Thu 18-12-25 12:02:14, Ryan Roberts wrote:
> On 18/12/2025 09:36, Yeoreum Yun wrote:
> > Hi,
> >> On Fri 12-12-25 16:18:32, Yeoreum Yun wrote:
> >>> linear_map_split_to_ptes() and __kpti_install_ng_mappings()
> >>> are called as callback of stop_machine().
> >>> That means these functions context are preemption disabled.
> >>>
> >>> Unfortunately, under PREEMPT_RT, the pagetable_alloc() or
> >>> __get_free_pages() couldn't be called in this context
> >>> since spin lock that becomes sleepable on RT,
> >>> potentially causing a sleep during page allocation.
> >>>
> >>> To address this, pagetable_alloc_nolock().
> >>
> >> As you cannot tolerate allocation failure and this is pretty much
> >> permanent allocation (AFAIU) why don't you use a static allocation?
> > 
> > Because of when bbl2_noabort is supported, that pages doesn't need to.
> > If static alloc, that would be a waste in the system where bbl2_noabort
> > is supported.
> > 
> > When I tested, these extra pages are more than 40 in my FVP.
> > So, it would be better dynamic allocation and I think since it's quite a
> > early time, it's probably not failed that's why former code runs as it
> > is.
> 
> The required allocation size is also a function of the size of the installed RAM
> so a static worst case allocation would consume all the RAM on small systems.

Understood. But is it possible to pre-allocate early on so that the
allocation itself doesn't have to happen from a constrained context.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-18 12:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-12 16:18 [PATCH 0/2] introduce pagetable_alloc_nolock() Yeoreum Yun
2025-12-12 16:18 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: " Yeoreum Yun
2025-12-12 16:18 ` [PATCH 2/2] arm64: mmu: use pagetable_alloc_nolock() while stop_machine() Yeoreum Yun
2025-12-13  7:05   ` Brendan Jackman
2025-12-14  9:13     ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-12-15  9:22       ` Brendan Jackman
2025-12-15  9:34         ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-12-15  9:55           ` Brendan Jackman
2025-12-15 10:06             ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-12-16 10:10               ` Brendan Jackman
2025-12-16 11:03                 ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-12-16 11:26                   ` Brendan Jackman
2025-12-16 12:01                     ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-12-16 12:39                       ` Brendan Jackman
2025-12-16 13:25                         ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-12-18  9:30   ` Michal Hocko
2025-12-18  9:36     ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-12-18 12:02       ` Ryan Roberts
2025-12-18 12:17         ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2025-12-18 12:24           ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-12-16 15:11 ` [PATCH 0/2] introduce pagetable_alloc_nolock() Ryan Roberts
2025-12-16 16:52   ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-12-17  9:34     ` Ryan Roberts
2025-12-17 10:48       ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-12-17 12:04         ` Ryan Roberts
2025-12-17 12:52           ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-12-17 13:15             ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-12-17 13:35               ` Brendan Jackman
2025-12-17 13:56                 ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-12-17 15:10                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-12-17 17:19                   ` Brendan Jackman
2025-12-18  7:47                     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-12-18  7:52                   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-23 22:59           ` Yang Shi
2025-12-24  7:00             ` Yeoreum Yun

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