From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
Joshua Hahn <joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com>,
Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 2/2] mm, page_alloc: fail costly __GFP_NORETRY allocations faster
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2025 17:28:34 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aUGIstlaG_0B7-Ep@tiehlicka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251216-thp-thisnode-tweak-v1-2-0e499d13d2eb@suse.cz>
On Tue 16-12-25 16:54:22, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> For allocations that are of costly order and __GFP_NORETRY (and can
> perform compaction) we attempt direct compaction first. If that fails,
> we continue with a single round of direct reclaim+compaction (as for
> other __GFP_NORETRY allocations, except the compaction is of lower
> priority), with two exceptions that fail immediately:
>
> - __GFP_THISNODE is specified, to prevent zone_reclaim_mode-like
> behavior for e.g. THP page faults
>
> - compaction failed because it was deferred (i.e. has been failing
> recently so further attempts are not done for a while) or skipped,
> which means there are insufficient free base pages to defragment to
> begin with
>
> Upon closer inspection, the second condition has a somewhat flawed
> reasoning. If there are not enough base pages and reclaim could create
> them, we instead fail. When there are enough base pages and compaction
> has already ran and failed, we proceed and hope that reclaim and the
> subsequent compaction attempt will succeed. But it's unclear why they
> should and whether it will be as inexpensive as intended.
>
> It might make therefore more sense to just fail unconditionally after
> the initial compaction attempt, so do that instead. Costly allocations
> that do want the reclaim/compaction to happen at least once can omit
> __GFP_NORETRY, or even specify __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL for more than one
> attempt.
>
> There is a slight potential unfairness in that costly __GFP_NORETRY
> allocations that can't perform direct compaction (i.e. lack __GFP_IO)
> will still be allowed to direct reclaim, while those that can direct
> compact will now never attempt direct reclaim. However, in cases of
> memory pressure causing compaction to be skipped due to insufficient
> base pages, direct reclaim was already not done before, so there should
> be no functional regressions from this change.
>
> Signed-off-by: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
I like this because, quite honestly, us trying to over-optimize for THP
(which seems to be the only costly allocation with GFP_NORETRY) has
turned out quite tricky and hard to reason about. So simplifying this
wrt. to the compaction feedback makes a lot of sense. Let's see where we
get from here.
Acked-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Thanks!
> ---
> include/linux/gfp_types.h | 2 ++
> mm/page_alloc.c | 47 +++--------------------------------------------
> 2 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 44 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/include/linux/gfp_types.h b/include/linux/gfp_types.h
> index 3de43b12209e..051311fdbdb1 100644
> --- a/include/linux/gfp_types.h
> +++ b/include/linux/gfp_types.h
> @@ -218,6 +218,8 @@ enum {
> * caller must handle the failure which is quite likely to happen under
> * heavy memory pressure. The flag is suitable when failure can easily be
> * handled at small cost, such as reduced throughput.
> + * For costly orders, only memory compaction can be attempted with no reclaim
> + * under some conditions.
> *
> * %__GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL: The VM implementation will retry memory reclaim
> * procedures that have previously failed if there is some indication
> diff --git a/mm/page_alloc.c b/mm/page_alloc.c
> index e6fd1213328b..2671cbbd6375 100644
> --- a/mm/page_alloc.c
> +++ b/mm/page_alloc.c
> @@ -4763,52 +4763,11 @@ __alloc_pages_slowpath(gfp_t gfp_mask, unsigned int order,
> goto got_pg;
>
> /*
> - * Checks for costly allocations with __GFP_NORETRY, which
> - * includes some THP page fault allocations
> + * Compaction didn't succeed and we were told not to try hard,
> + * so fail now.
> */
> if (costly_order && (gfp_mask & __GFP_NORETRY)) {
> - /*
> - * If allocating entire pageblock(s) and compaction
> - * failed because all zones are below low watermarks
> - * or is prohibited because it recently failed at this
> - * order, fail immediately unless the allocator has
> - * requested compaction and reclaim retry.
> - *
> - * Reclaim is
> - * - potentially very expensive because zones are far
> - * below their low watermarks or this is part of very
> - * bursty high order allocations,
> - * - not guaranteed to help because isolate_freepages()
> - * may not iterate over freed pages as part of its
> - * linear scan, and
> - * - unlikely to make entire pageblocks free on its
> - * own.
> - */
> - if (compact_result == COMPACT_SKIPPED ||
> - compact_result == COMPACT_DEFERRED)
> - goto nopage;
> -
> - /*
> - * THP page faults may attempt local node only first,
> - * but are then allowed to only compact, not reclaim,
> - * see alloc_pages_mpol()
> - *
> - * compaction can fail for other reasons than those
> - * checked above and we don't want such THP allocations
> - * to put reclaim pressure on a single node in a
> - * situation where other nodes might have plenty of
> - * available memory
> - */
> - if (gfp_mask & __GFP_THISNODE)
> - goto nopage;
> -
> - /*
> - * Looks like reclaim/compaction is worth trying, but
> - * sync compaction could be very expensive, so keep
> - * using async compaction.
> - */
> - compact_priority = INIT_COMPACT_PRIORITY;
> - }
> + goto nopage;
> }
>
> retry:
>
> --
> 2.52.0
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-12-16 16:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-12-16 15:54 [PATCH RFC 0/2] tweaks for costly order __GFP_NORETRY reclaim Vlastimil Babka
2025-12-16 15:54 ` [PATCH RFC 1/2] mm, page_alloc, thp: prevent reclaim for __GFP_THISNODE THP allocations Vlastimil Babka
2025-12-16 16:26 ` Michal Hocko
2025-12-16 20:11 ` Johannes Weiner
2025-12-16 20:23 ` Zi Yan
2025-12-17 15:53 ` Pedro Falcato
2025-12-16 15:54 ` [PATCH RFC 2/2] mm, page_alloc: fail costly __GFP_NORETRY allocations faster Vlastimil Babka
2025-12-16 16:28 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2025-12-16 20:32 ` Johannes Weiner
2025-12-17 8:46 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-12-17 16:35 ` Johannes Weiner
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