From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)" <david@kernel.org>
Cc: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Aboorva Devarajan <aboorvad@linux.ibm.com>,
vbabka@suse.cz, surenb@google.com, jackmanb@google.com,
hannes@cmpxchg.org, ziy@nvidia.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Oscar Salvador <OSalvador@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/page_alloc: make percpu_pagelist_high_fraction reads lock-free
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2025 10:42:28 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aTAGBPuS_iUAWNKO@tiehlicka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8b89bb59-6b6a-4a79-a571-e97b9ae5287f@kernel.org>
On Wed 03-12-25 10:15:04, David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) wrote:
> On 12/3/25 09:59, Gregory Price wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 03, 2025 at 09:42:59AM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > On Wed 03-12-25 03:35:51, Gregory Price wrote:
> > > > if (!ret) {
> > > > /*
> > > > * TODO: fatal migration failures should bail
> > > > * out
> > > > */
> > > > do_migrate_range(pfn, end_pfn);
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > Maybe it's time to implement the bail out?
> > >
> > > That would be great but can we tell transient from permanent migration
> > > failures? Maybe long term pins could be treated as permanent failure.
> > >
> >
> > I see deep in migration code `migrate_pages_batch()` we would return
> > "Some other failure" as fatal:
> >
> > switch(rc) {
> > case -ENOMEM:
> > ...
> > /* Note: some long-term pin handing is done here */
> > break;
> > case -EAGAIN:
> > ...
> > break;
> > case 0:
> > ...
> > list_move_tail(&folio->lru, &unmap_folios);
> > list_add_tail(&dst->lru, &dst_folios);
> > break;
> > default:
> > /*
> > * Permanent failure (-EBUSY, etc.):
> > * unlike -EAGAIN case, the failed folio is
> > * removed from migration folio list and not
> > * retried in the next outer loop.
> > */
> > nr_failed++;
> > stats->nr_thp_failed += is_thp;
> > stats->nr_failed_pages += nr_pages;
> > break;
> > }
> >
> > So at a minimum we could at least check for !(ENOMEM,EAGAIN) I suppose?
> >
> > It's unclear to me based on this code here how longerm pinning would
> > return. Maybe David knows.
>
> I would assume that additional references will always result in -EAGAIN.
> Remember that we cannot distinguish short-term pins from long-term pins.
>
> We should never have longterm-pins on ZONE_MOVABLE, unless something broke
> that contract and needs to be fixed.
Right. But what should the hotplug code do under that condition. Loop
for ever or fail reporting the broken contract? I would lean towards the
latter. We have never promised that offlining will not fail ever for
movable zones. We just guarantee that the operation is resistant against
recovarable failures.
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-12-03 9:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-12-01 6:00 Aboorva Devarajan
2025-12-01 17:41 ` Andrew Morton
2025-12-03 8:27 ` Michal Hocko
2025-12-03 8:35 ` Gregory Price
2025-12-03 8:42 ` Michal Hocko
2025-12-03 8:51 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-03 9:02 ` Gregory Price
2025-12-03 9:08 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-03 9:23 ` Gregory Price
2025-12-03 9:26 ` Gregory Price
2025-12-03 11:28 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-03 8:59 ` Gregory Price
2025-12-03 9:15 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-03 9:42 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2025-12-03 11:22 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-03 8:21 ` Michal Hocko
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