From: Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>
To: Jon Hunter <jonathanh@nvidia.com>
Cc: Daniel Gomez <da.gomez@kernel.org>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
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Aaron Tomlin <atomlin@atomlin.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 04/23] slab: add sheaf support for batching kfree_rcu() operations
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2025 21:33:46 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aShFKpqPTgqshx3s@hyeyoo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e988eff6-1287-425e-a06c-805af5bbf262@nvidia.com>
On Thu, Nov 27, 2025 at 11:38:49AM +0000, Jon Hunter wrote:
>
>
> On 31/10/2025 21:32, Daniel Gomez wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 10/09/2025 10.01, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> > > Extend the sheaf infrastructure for more efficient kfree_rcu() handling.
> > > For caches with sheaves, on each cpu maintain a rcu_free sheaf in
> > > addition to main and spare sheaves.
> > >
> > > kfree_rcu() operations will try to put objects on this sheaf. Once full,
> > > the sheaf is detached and submitted to call_rcu() with a handler that
> > > will try to put it in the barn, or flush to slab pages using bulk free,
> > > when the barn is full. Then a new empty sheaf must be obtained to put
> > > more objects there.
> > >
> > > It's possible that no free sheaves are available to use for a new
> > > rcu_free sheaf, and the allocation in kfree_rcu() context can only use
> > > GFP_NOWAIT and thus may fail. In that case, fall back to the existing
> > > kfree_rcu() implementation.
> > >
> > > Expected advantages:
> > > - batching the kfree_rcu() operations, that could eventually replace the
> > > existing batching
> > > - sheaves can be reused for allocations via barn instead of being
> > > flushed to slabs, which is more efficient
> > > - this includes cases where only some cpus are allowed to process rcu
> > > callbacks (Android)
> > >
> > > Possible disadvantage:
> > > - objects might be waiting for more than their grace period (it is
> > > determined by the last object freed into the sheaf), increasing memory
> > > usage - but the existing batching does that too.
> > >
> > > Only implement this for CONFIG_KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED as the tiny
> > > implementation favors smaller memory footprint over performance.
> > >
> > > Also for now skip the usage of rcu sheaf for CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT as the
> > > contexts where kfree_rcu() is called might not be compatible with taking
> > > a barn spinlock or a GFP_NOWAIT allocation of a new sheaf taking a
> > > spinlock - the current kfree_rcu() implementation avoids doing that.
> > >
> > > Teach kvfree_rcu_barrier() to flush all rcu_free sheaves from all caches
> > > that have them. This is not a cheap operation, but the barrier usage is
> > > rare - currently kmem_cache_destroy() or on module unload.
> > >
> > > Add CONFIG_SLUB_STATS counters free_rcu_sheaf and free_rcu_sheaf_fail to
> > > count how many kfree_rcu() used the rcu_free sheaf successfully and how
> > > many had to fall back to the existing implementation.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
> >
> > Hi Vlastimil,
> >
> > This patch increases kmod selftest (stress module loader) runtime by about
> > ~50-60%, from ~200s to ~300s total execution time. My tested kernel has
> > CONFIG_KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED enabled. Any idea or suggestions on what might be
> > causing this, or how to address it?
> >
>
> I have been looking into a regression for Linux v6.18-rc where time taken to
> run some internal graphics tests on our Tegra234 device has increased from
> around 35% causing the tests to timeout. Bisect is pointing to this commit
> and I also see we have CONFIG_KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED=y.
Thanks for reporting! Uh, this has been put aside while I was busy working
on other stuff... but now that we have two people complaining about this,
I'll allocate some time to investigate and improve it.
It'll take some time though :)
> I have not tried disabling CONFIG_KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED=y but I can. I am not
> sure if there are any downsides to disabling this?
I would not recommend doing that, unless you want to sacrifice overall
performance just for the test. Disabling it could create too many RCU
grace periods in the system.
>
> Thanks
> Jon
>
> --
> nvpublic
--
Cheers,
Harry / Hyeonggon
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-27 12:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-10 8:01 [PATCH v8 00/23] SLUB percpu sheaves Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 01/23] locking/local_lock: Expose dep_map in local_trylock_t Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-24 16:49 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 02/23] slab: simplify init_kmem_cache_nodes() error handling Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-24 16:52 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 03/23] slab: add opt-in caching layer of percpu sheaves Vlastimil Babka
2025-12-02 8:48 ` [PATCH] slub: add barn_get_full_sheaf() and refine empty-main sheaf Hao Li
2025-12-02 8:55 ` Hao Li
2025-12-02 9:00 ` slub: add barn_get_full_sheaf() and refine empty-main sheaf replacement Hao Li
2025-12-03 5:46 ` Harry Yoo
2025-12-03 11:15 ` Hao Li
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 04/23] slab: add sheaf support for batching kfree_rcu() operations Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-12 0:38 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-09-12 7:03 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-17 8:30 ` Harry Yoo
2025-09-17 9:55 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-17 11:32 ` Harry Yoo
2025-09-17 12:05 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-17 13:07 ` Harry Yoo
2025-09-17 13:21 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-17 13:34 ` Harry Yoo
2025-09-17 14:14 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-18 8:09 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-19 6:47 ` Harry Yoo
2025-09-19 7:02 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-19 8:59 ` Harry Yoo
2025-09-25 4:35 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-25 8:52 ` Harry Yoo
2025-09-25 13:38 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-26 10:08 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-26 15:41 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-17 11:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-09-17 12:13 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-31 21:32 ` Daniel Gomez
2025-11-03 3:17 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-05 11:25 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-11-27 14:00 ` Daniel Gomez
2025-11-27 19:29 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-11-28 11:37 ` [PATCH V1] mm/slab: introduce kvfree_rcu_barrier_on_cache() for cache destruction Harry Yoo
2025-11-28 12:22 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-28 12:38 ` Daniel Gomez
2025-12-02 9:29 ` Jon Hunter
2025-12-02 10:18 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-27 11:38 ` [PATCH v8 04/23] slab: add sheaf support for batching kfree_rcu() operations Jon Hunter
2025-11-27 11:50 ` Jon Hunter
2025-11-27 12:33 ` Harry Yoo [this message]
2025-11-27 12:48 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-28 8:57 ` Jon Hunter
2025-12-01 6:55 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-27 13:18 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-11-28 8:59 ` Jon Hunter
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 05/23] slab: sheaf prefilling for guaranteed allocations Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 06/23] slab: determine barn status racily outside of lock Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 07/23] slab: skip percpu sheaves for remote object freeing Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-25 16:14 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 08/23] slab: allow NUMA restricted allocations to use percpu sheaves Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-25 16:27 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 09/23] maple_tree: remove redundant __GFP_NOWARN Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 10/23] tools/testing/vma: clean up stubs in vma_internal.h Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 11/23] maple_tree: Drop bulk insert support Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-25 16:38 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 12/23] tools/testing/vma: Implement vm_refcnt reset Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-25 16:38 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 13/23] tools/testing: Add support for changes to slab for sheaves Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-26 23:28 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 14/23] mm, vma: use percpu sheaves for vm_area_struct cache Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 15/23] maple_tree: use percpu sheaves for maple_node_cache Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-12 2:20 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-10-16 15:16 ` D, Suneeth
2025-10-16 16:15 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-17 18:26 ` D, Suneeth
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 16/23] tools/testing: include maple-shim.c in maple.c Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-26 23:45 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 17/23] testing/radix-tree/maple: Hack around kfree_rcu not existing Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-26 23:53 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 18/23] maple_tree: Use kfree_rcu in ma_free_rcu Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-17 11:46 ` Harry Yoo
2025-09-27 0:05 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 19/23] maple_tree: Replace mt_free_one() with kfree() Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-27 0:06 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 20/23] tools/testing: Add support for prefilled slab sheafs Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-27 0:28 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 21/23] maple_tree: Prefilled sheaf conversion and testing Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-27 1:08 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-29 7:30 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-29 16:51 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 22/23] maple_tree: Add single node allocation support to maple state Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-27 1:17 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-29 7:39 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 23/23] maple_tree: Convert forking to use the sheaf interface Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-07 6:34 ` [PATCH v8 00/23] SLUB percpu sheaves Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-07 8:03 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-08 6:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-15 8:32 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-22 6:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
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