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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Joshua Hahn <joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] mm/mm_init: decouple page checking and init_on_{alloc, free}
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2025 09:45:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aSVssg5c8mNvyLou@tiehlicka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251124225408.2243564-2-joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com>

On Mon 24-11-25 14:54:07, Joshua Hahn wrote:
> init_on_alloc and init_on_free protect the kernel by initializing
> allocated and freed pages to 0 on allocation time / deletion.
> Commit 700d2e9a36b93601270c1e15550acde2521386c5 ("mm, page_alloc: reduce
> page alloc/free sanity checks") removed page checking from hot pcp
> drain and refill paths, and instead coupled it with CONFIG_DEBUG_VM,
> debug_pagealloc, page poisoning, and init_on_{alloc, free}.
> 
> As the commit suggests, the first three turn the kernel into a debug
> kernel, while the last hardens the kernel against leaking sensitive memory.
> While enabling page checking is relatively low-cost and tying it
> together with page initialization is not unreasonable, it does feel like
> a bit of a side-effect, rather than an obvious consequence.
> 
> With page checking now pulled out as a boot time parameter that can be
> set independently, let's decouple page checking and init_on_alloc and
> init_on_free.
> 
> As a direct side effect, systems that have init_on_alloc or init_on_free
> will no longer have page checking enabled by default; they will either
> have to pass the check_pages boot parameter, build the kernel with
> CONFIG_DEBUG_VM, or enable debug_pagealloc / page poisoning.

How come this will not break existing users? What is an actual upside to
get for the risk involved?

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-11-25  8:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-24 22:54 [PATCH v2 1/2] mm/mm_init: Introduce a boot parameter for check_pages Joshua Hahn
2025-11-24 22:54 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] mm/mm_init: decouple page checking and init_on_{alloc, free} Joshua Hahn
2025-11-25  1:18   ` SeongJae Park
2025-11-25 18:59     ` Joshua Hahn
2025-11-25  8:45   ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2025-11-25 18:06     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-11-25 18:58       ` Joshua Hahn
2025-11-25  1:10 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] mm/mm_init: Introduce a boot parameter for check_pages SeongJae Park
2025-11-25  8:44 ` Michal Hocko
2025-11-25 10:23 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-25 18:44   ` Joshua Hahn

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