From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>,
"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
SHAURYA RANE <ssrane_b23@ee.vjti.ac.in>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, shakeel.butt@linux.dev,
eddyz87@gmail.com, andrii@kernel.org, ast@kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel-mentees@lists.linux.dev, skhan@linuxfoundation.org,
david.hunter.linux@gmail.com, khalid@kernel.org,
syzbot+09b7d050e4806540153d@syzkaller.appspotmail.com,
bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/filemap: fix NULL pointer dereference in do_read_cache_folio()
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2025 15:37:09 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aRySpQbNuw3Y5DN-@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aRxunCkc4VomEUdo@infradead.org>
On Tue, Nov 18, 2025 at 05:03:24AM -0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2025 at 10:45:31AM -0800, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
> > As I replied on another email, ideally we'd have some low-level file
> > reading interface where we wouldn't have to know about secretmem, or
> > XFS+DAX, or whatever other unusual combination of conditions where
> > exposed internal APIs like filemap_get_folio() + read_cache_folio()
> > can crash.
>
> The problem is that you did something totally insane and it kinda works
> most of the time.
... on 64-bit systems. The HIGHMEM handling is screwed up too.
> But bpf or any other file system consumer has
> absolutely not business poking into the page cache to start with.
Agreed.
> And I'm really pissed off that you wrote and merged this code without
> ever bothering to talk to a FS or MM person who have immediately told
> you so. Let's just rip out this buildid junk for now and restart
> because the problem isn't actually that easy.
Oh, they did talk to fs & mm people originally and were told NO, so they
sneaked it in through the BPF tree.
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20230316170149.4106586-1-jolsa@kernel.org/
> > The only real limitation is that we'd like to be able to control
> > whether we are ok sleeping or not, as this code can be called from
> > pretty much anywhere BPF might run, which includes NMI context.
> >
> > Would this kiocb_read() approach work under those circumstances?
>
> No. IOCB_NOWAIT is just a hint to avoid blocking function calls.
> It is not guarantee and a guarantee is basically impossible.
I'm not sure I'd go that far -- I think we're pretty good about not
sleeping when IOCB_NOWAIT is specified and any remaining places can
be fixed up.
But I am inclined to rip out the buildid code, just because the
authors have been so rude.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-18 15:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-14 19:37 ssrane_b23
2025-11-14 20:44 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-11-16 5:42 ` [PATCH v2] " ssrane_b23
2025-11-16 5:43 ` [PATCH] " SHAURYA RANE
2025-11-16 22:32 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-11-17 14:10 ` Shaurya Rane
2025-11-17 18:42 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-11-17 16:41 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-11-17 18:03 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-11-17 18:45 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-11-18 13:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-18 15:37 ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2025-11-18 16:12 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-11-18 19:38 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-11-19 5:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-19 6:29 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-11-18 19:27 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-11-19 5:50 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-19 17:12 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-11-18 5:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-18 12:51 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-11-18 12:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
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