From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
JP Kobryn <inwardvessel@gmail.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@kernel.org>,
Song Liu <song@kernel.org>,
Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 14/23] mm: allow specifying custom oom constraint for BPF triggers
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2025 08:52:06 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aRQ8pu_57IeA_Jn_@tiehlicka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871pm4peeb.fsf@linux.dev>
On Tue 11-11-25 11:17:48, Roman Gushchin wrote:
> Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> writes:
>
> > On Mon 27-10-25 16:21:57, Roman Gushchin wrote:
> >> Currently there is a hard-coded list of possible oom constraints:
> >> NONE, CPUSET, MEMORY_POLICY & MEMCG. Add a new one: CONSTRAINT_BPF.
> >> Also, add an ability to specify a custom constraint name
> >> when calling bpf_out_of_memory(). If an empty string is passed
> >> as an argument, CONSTRAINT_BPF is displayed.
> >
> > Constrain is meant to define the scope of the oom handler but to me it
> > seems like you want to specify the oom handler and (ab)using scope for
> > that. In other words it still makes sense to distinguesh memcg, global,
> > mempolicy wide OOMs with global vs. bpf handler, right?
>
> I use the word "constraint" as the "reason" why an OOM was declared (in
> other words which constraint was violated). And memcg vs global define
> the scope. Right now the only way to trigger a memcg oom is to exceed
> the memory.max limit. But with bpf oom there will others, e.g. exceed a
> certain PSI threshold. So you can have different constraints violated
> within the same scope.
Please use a different placeholder for that. Current constrains have a
well defined semantic. They are not claiming why the OOM happened but
what is the scope of the oom action (domain if you will). The specific
handler has a sufficient knowledge to explain why the OOM killing is
happening and on which domain/scope/constrain.
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-12 7:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-27 23:21 [PATCH v2 11/23] mm: introduce BPF kfunc to access memory events Roman Gushchin
2025-10-27 23:21 ` [PATCH v2 12/23] bpf: selftests: selftests for memcg stat kfuncs Roman Gushchin
2025-10-27 23:21 ` [PATCH v2 13/23] mm: introduce bpf_out_of_memory() BPF kfunc Roman Gushchin
2025-10-27 23:57 ` bot+bpf-ci
2025-10-28 16:43 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-11-10 9:46 ` Michal Hocko
2025-11-11 19:13 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-11-12 7:50 ` Michal Hocko
2025-10-27 23:21 ` [PATCH v2 14/23] mm: allow specifying custom oom constraint for BPF triggers Roman Gushchin
2025-10-27 23:48 ` bot+bpf-ci
2025-10-28 15:58 ` Chris Mason
2025-10-28 16:20 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-10-28 16:35 ` Chris Mason
2025-11-10 9:31 ` Michal Hocko
2025-11-11 19:17 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-11-12 7:52 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2025-10-27 23:21 ` [PATCH v2 15/23] mm: introduce bpf_task_is_oom_victim() kfunc Roman Gushchin
2025-10-28 17:32 ` Tejun Heo
2025-10-28 18:09 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-10-28 18:31 ` Tejun Heo
2025-10-27 23:21 ` [PATCH v2 16/23] libbpf: introduce bpf_map__attach_struct_ops_opts() Roman Gushchin
2025-10-27 23:48 ` bot+bpf-ci
2025-10-28 17:07 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-10-28 17:24 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-10-27 23:22 ` [PATCH v2 17/23] bpf: selftests: introduce read_cgroup_file() helper Roman Gushchin
2025-10-27 23:48 ` bot+bpf-ci
2025-10-28 16:31 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-10-27 23:22 ` [PATCH v2 18/23] bpf: selftests: BPF OOM handler test Roman Gushchin
2025-10-27 23:22 ` [PATCH v2 19/23] sched: psi: refactor psi_trigger_create() Roman Gushchin
2025-10-27 23:22 ` [PATCH v2 20/23] sched: psi: implement bpf_psi struct ops Roman Gushchin
2025-10-27 23:48 ` bot+bpf-ci
2025-10-28 17:40 ` Tejun Heo
2025-10-28 18:29 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-10-28 18:35 ` Tejun Heo
2025-10-28 19:54 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-10-27 23:22 ` [PATCH v2 21/23] sched: psi: implement bpf_psi_create_trigger() kfunc Roman Gushchin
2025-10-27 23:22 ` [PATCH v2 22/23] bpf: selftests: add config for psi Roman Gushchin
2025-10-27 23:22 ` [PATCH v2 23/23] bpf: selftests: PSI struct ops test Roman Gushchin
2025-10-27 23:48 ` bot+bpf-ci
2025-10-28 17:13 ` Roman Gushchin
2025-10-28 17:30 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-11-10 9:48 ` Michal Hocko
2025-11-11 19:03 ` Roman Gushchin
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