From: Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>
To: Qi Zheng <qi.zheng@linux.dev>
Cc: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
hannes@cmpxchg.org, hughd@google.com, mhocko@suse.com,
roman.gushchin@linux.dev, muchun.song@linux.dev,
david@redhat.com, lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com, ziy@nvidia.com,
imran.f.khan@oracle.com, kamalesh.babulal@oracle.com,
axelrasmussen@google.com, yuanchu@google.com, weixugc@google.com,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>,
Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>,
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
Clark Williams <clrkwllms@kernel.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 04/26] mm: vmscan: refactor move_folios_to_lru()
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2025 12:16:43 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aRKqm24Lrg-JnCoh@hyeyoo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8d6655f8-2756-45bb-85c1-223c3a5e656c@linux.dev>
On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 11:04:09AM +0800, Qi Zheng wrote:
>
> On 11/11/25 12:47 AM, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 10, 2025 at 02:43:21PM +0900, Harry Yoo wrote:
> > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2025 at 12:30:06PM +0800, Qi Zheng wrote:
> > > > > Maybe we could make it safe against re-entrant IRQ handlers by using
> > > > > read-modify-write operations?
> > > >
> > > > Isn't it because of the RMW operation that we need to use IRQ to
> > > > guarantee atomicity? Or have I misunderstood something?
> > >
> > > I meant using atomic operations instead of disabling IRQs, like, by
> > > using this_cpu_add() or cmpxchg() instead.
> >
> > We already have mod_node_page_state() which is safe from IRQs and is
> > optimized to not disable IRQs for archs with HAVE_CMPXCHG_LOCAL which
> > includes x86 and arm64.
>
> However, in the !CONFIG_HAVE_CMPXCHG_LOCAL case, mod_node_page_state()
> still calls local_irq_save(). Is this feasible in the PREEMPT_RT kernel?
Hmm I was going to say it's necessary, but AFAICT we don't allocate
or free memory in hardirq context on PREEMPT_RT (that's the policy)
and so I'd say it's not necessary to disable IRQs.
Sounds like we still want to disable IRQs only on !PREEMPT_RT on
such architectures?
Not sure how seriously do PREEMPT_RT folks care about architectures
without HAVE_CMPXCHG_LOCAL. (riscv and loongarch have ARCH_SUPPORTS_RT
but doesn't have HAVE_CMPXCHG_LOCAL).
If they do care, this can be done as a separate patch series because
we already call local_irq_{save,restore}() in many places in mm/vmstat.c
if the architecture doesn't not have HAVE_CMPXCHG_LOCAL.
> > Let me send the patch to cleanup the memcg code which uses
> > __mod_node_page_state.
--
Cheers,
Harry / Hyeonggon
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-11 3:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-28 13:58 [PATCH v1 00/26] Eliminate Dying Memory Cgroup Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 01/26] mm: memcontrol: remove dead code of checking parent memory cgroup Qi Zheng
2025-11-07 1:40 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-20 9:07 ` Chen Ridong
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 02/26] mm: workingset: use folio_lruvec() in workingset_refault() Qi Zheng
2025-11-07 1:55 ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 03/26] mm: rename unlock_page_lruvec_irq and its variants Qi Zheng
2025-11-07 2:03 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-20 12:27 ` Chen Ridong
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 04/26] mm: vmscan: refactor move_folios_to_lru() Qi Zheng
2025-11-07 5:11 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-07 6:41 ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-07 13:20 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-08 6:32 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-11-10 2:13 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-10 4:30 ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-10 5:43 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-10 6:11 ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-10 16:47 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-11-11 0:42 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-11 3:04 ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-11 3:16 ` Harry Yoo [this message]
2025-11-11 3:23 ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-11 8:49 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-11-11 16:44 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-11-12 7:49 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-11-12 8:46 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-12 8:54 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-11-12 15:45 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-11 3:17 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-11-11 3:24 ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-07 7:18 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 05/26] mm: memcontrol: allocate object cgroup for non-kmem case Qi Zheng
2025-11-17 8:02 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-21 3:58 ` Chen Ridong
2025-11-21 8:17 ` Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 06/26] mm: memcontrol: return root object cgroup for root memory cgroup Qi Zheng
2025-11-17 9:17 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-17 9:41 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-18 11:31 ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-18 11:28 ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-18 12:11 ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-19 7:24 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-19 7:42 ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-18 12:12 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-19 6:40 ` Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 07/26] mm: memcontrol: prevent memory cgroup release in get_mem_cgroup_from_folio() Qi Zheng
2025-11-19 8:06 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-20 13:32 ` Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 08/26] buffer: prevent memory cgroup release in folio_alloc_buffers() Qi Zheng
2025-11-19 8:10 ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 09/26] writeback: prevent memory cgroup release in writeback module Qi Zheng
2025-11-19 9:18 ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 10/26] mm: memcontrol: prevent memory cgroup release in count_memcg_folio_events() Qi Zheng
2025-11-19 9:21 ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 11/26] mm: page_io: prevent memory cgroup release in page_io module Qi Zheng
2025-11-19 9:26 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-20 13:34 ` Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 12/26] mm: migrate: prevent memory cgroup release in folio_migrate_mapping() Qi Zheng
2025-11-19 10:00 ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 13/26] mm: mglru: prevent memory cgroup release in mglru Qi Zheng
2025-11-19 10:13 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-20 13:39 ` Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 14/26] mm: memcontrol: prevent memory cgroup release in mem_cgroup_swap_full() Qi Zheng
2025-11-20 7:51 ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 15/26] mm: workingset: prevent memory cgroup release in lru_gen_eviction() Qi Zheng
2025-11-20 8:26 ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 16/26] mm: thp: prevent memory cgroup release in folio_split_queue_lock{_irqsave}() Qi Zheng
2025-11-20 8:53 ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 17/26] mm: workingset: prevent lruvec release in workingset_refault() Qi Zheng
2025-11-20 9:40 ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 18/26] mm: zswap: prevent lruvec release in zswap_folio_swapin() Qi Zheng
2025-11-20 9:42 ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 19/26] mm: swap: prevent lruvec release in swap module Qi Zheng
2025-11-20 9:52 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-20 13:41 ` Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 20/26] mm: workingset: prevent lruvec release in workingset_activation() Qi Zheng
2025-11-20 9:54 ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 21/26] mm: memcontrol: prepare for reparenting LRU pages for lruvec lock Qi Zheng
2025-11-04 6:49 ` kernel test robot
2025-11-04 8:59 ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-21 3:15 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-21 8:01 ` Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 22/26] mm: vmscan: prepare for reparenting traditional LRU folios Qi Zheng
2025-11-21 10:11 ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 23/26] mm: vmscan: prepare for reparenting MGLRU folios Qi Zheng
2025-11-25 9:55 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-26 2:44 ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-26 13:48 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-27 3:48 ` Qi Zheng
2025-12-01 15:40 ` Qi Zheng
2025-12-01 21:50 ` Yuanchu Xie
2025-12-02 3:04 ` Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 24/26] mm: memcontrol: refactor memcg_reparent_objcgs() Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 25/26] mm: memcontrol: eliminate the problem of dying memory cgroup for LRU folios Qi Zheng
2025-11-14 17:56 ` Michal Koutný
2025-11-20 11:56 ` Chen Ridong
2025-11-20 13:45 ` Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 26/26] mm: lru: add VM_WARN_ON_ONCE_FOLIO to lru maintenance helpers Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 20:58 ` [syzbot ci] Re: Eliminate Dying Memory Cgroup syzbot ci
2025-10-29 0:22 ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-29 0:25 ` syzbot ci
2025-10-29 3:12 ` Qi Zheng
2025-10-29 7:53 ` [PATCH v1 00/26] " Michal Hocko
2025-10-29 8:05 ` Qi Zheng
2025-10-31 10:35 ` Michal Hocko
2025-11-03 3:33 ` Qi Zheng
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