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From: Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: "linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/3] exec: don't wait for zombie threads with cred_guard_mutex held
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2025 00:49:37 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aRJd8Z-DrYrjRt4r@grain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aRIAEYH2iLLN-Fjg@redhat.com>

On Mon, Nov 10, 2025 at 04:09:05PM +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
...
> > > 	if (!((sig->flags & SIGNAL_GROUP_EXIT) || sig->group_exec_task)) {
> > > 		sig->group_exec_task = tsk;
> > > 		sig->notify_count = -zap_other_threads(tsk);
> >
> > Hi Oleg! I somehow manage to miss a moment -- why negative result here?
> 
> You know, initially I wrote
> 
> 		sig->notify_count = 0 - zap_other_threads(tsk);
> 
> to make it clear that this is not a typo ;)

Aha! Thanks a huge for explanation :)

> 
> This is for exit_notify() which does
> 
> 	/* mt-exec, de_thread() -> wait_for_notify_count() */
> 	if (tsk->signal->notify_count < 0 && !++tsk->signal->notify_count)
> 		wake_up_process(tsk->signal->group_exec_task);
> 
> Then setup_new_exec() sets notify_count > 0 for __exit_signal() which does
> 
> 	/* mt-exec, setup_new_exec() -> wait_for_notify_count() */
> 	if (sig->notify_count > 0 && !--sig->notify_count)
> 		wake_up_process(sig->group_exec_task);
> 
> Yes this needs more comments and (with or without this patch) cleanups.
> Note that exit_notify() and __exit_signal() already (before this patch)
> use ->notify_count almost the same way, just exit_notify() assumes that
> notify_count < 0 means the !thread_group_leader() case in de_thread().

Yeah, just realized. It's been a long time since I looked into this signals
and tasks related code so to be honest don't think I would be helpful here)
Anyway while looking into patch I got wonder why

+static int wait_for_notify_count(struct task_struct *tsk)
+{
+	for (;;) {
+			return -EINTR;
+		set_current_state(TASK_KILLABLE);
+		if (!tsk->signal->notify_count)
+			break;

We have no any barrier here in fetching @notify_count? I mean updating
this value is done under locks (spin or read/write) in turn condition
test is a raw one. Not a big deal since set_current_state() and schedule()
are buffer flushers by themselves and after all not immediate update of
notify_count simply force us to yield one more schedule() call but I've
been a bit confused that we don't use some read_once here or something.
Another (more likely) that I've just said something stupid)

+		schedule();
 	}
+	__set_current_state(TASK_RUNNING);
+	return 0;
+}

	Cyrill


  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-10 21:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <AM8PR10MB470801D01A0CF24BC32C25E7E40E9@AM8PR10MB4708.EURPRD10.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
     [not found] ` <AM8PR10MB470875B22B4C08BEAEC3F77FE4169@AM8PR10MB4708.EURPRD10.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
2023-10-30  5:20   ` [PATCH v12] exec: Fix dead-lock in de_thread with ptrace_attach Bernd Edlinger
2023-10-30  9:00     ` kernel test robot
     [not found]     ` <AS8P193MB12851AC1F862B97FCE9B3F4FE4AAA@AS8P193MB1285.EURP193.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
2024-01-15 19:22       ` [PATCH v14] " Bernd Edlinger
2024-01-15 19:37         ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-17  9:51           ` Bernd Edlinger
2024-01-16 15:22         ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-01-17 15:07           ` Bernd Edlinger
2024-01-17 16:38             ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-01-22 13:24               ` Bernd Edlinger
2024-01-22 13:44                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-01-22 21:30                 ` Kees Cook
2024-01-23 18:30                   ` Bernd Edlinger
2024-01-24  0:09                     ` Kees Cook
     [not found]         ` <AS8P193MB1285937F9831CECAF2A9EEE2E4752@AS8P193MB1285.EURP193.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
2025-08-18  6:04           ` [PATCH v15] " Jain, Ayush
2025-08-18 20:53           ` [PATCH v16] " Bernd Edlinger
2025-08-19  4:36             ` Kees Cook
2025-08-19 18:53               ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-08-21 17:34             ` [PATCH v17] " Bernd Edlinger
2025-10-27  6:26               ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-10-27 12:06               ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-02 16:17               ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-05 14:32               ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-11  9:21                 ` Christian Brauner
2025-11-11 11:07                   ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-11 13:12                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-11 13:45                       ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-12  9:52                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-17  6:31                   ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-17 15:01                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-17 20:08                       ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-23 18:32                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-29 15:06                           ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-12-01 15:13                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-09 17:14               ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] mt-exec: fix deadlock with ptrace_attach() Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-09 17:14                 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] exec: make setup_new_exec() return int Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-09 17:15                 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] exec: don't wait for zombie threads with cred_guard_mutex held Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-10 10:58                   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2025-11-10 15:09                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-10 21:49                       ` Cyrill Gorcunov [this message]
2025-11-11 14:09                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-09 17:16                 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] ptrace: ensure PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT won't stop if the tracee is killed by exec Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-10  5:28                 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] mt-exec: fix deadlock with ptrace_attach() Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-10 14:47                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-18 18:13               ` [PATCH v18] exec: Fix dead-lock in de_thread with ptrace_attach Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-20 15:15                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-11-20 17:29                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-11-20 20:57                     ` [RFC][PATCH] exec: Move cred computation under exec_update_lock Eric W. Biederman
2025-11-20 23:50                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-11-21  2:59                         ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-21  7:18                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-11-21  9:35                             ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-21 11:26                               ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-21 19:19                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-11-21 23:06                                   ` Ryan Lee
2025-11-23 18:52                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-23 23:22                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-11-25 16:19                           ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-25 11:55                       ` Roberto Sassu
2025-12-01 16:06                         ` Are setuid shell scripts safe? (Implied by security_bprm_creds_for_exec) Eric W. Biederman
2025-12-01 16:49                           ` Roberto Sassu
2025-12-01 18:53                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-12-01 21:39                               ` David Laight
2025-12-03 13:16                               ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-12-04  5:49                                 ` Al Viro
2025-12-04  9:32                                   ` David Laight
2025-12-04 13:03                                   ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-12-04 15:43                           ` Stephen Smalley
2025-11-22 17:10                     ` [PATCH v18] exec: Fix dead-lock in de_thread with ptrace_attach Bernd Edlinger

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