From: Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: "linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/3] exec: don't wait for zombie threads with cred_guard_mutex held
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2025 00:49:37 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aRJd8Z-DrYrjRt4r@grain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aRIAEYH2iLLN-Fjg@redhat.com>
On Mon, Nov 10, 2025 at 04:09:05PM +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
...
> > > if (!((sig->flags & SIGNAL_GROUP_EXIT) || sig->group_exec_task)) {
> > > sig->group_exec_task = tsk;
> > > sig->notify_count = -zap_other_threads(tsk);
> >
> > Hi Oleg! I somehow manage to miss a moment -- why negative result here?
>
> You know, initially I wrote
>
> sig->notify_count = 0 - zap_other_threads(tsk);
>
> to make it clear that this is not a typo ;)
Aha! Thanks a huge for explanation :)
>
> This is for exit_notify() which does
>
> /* mt-exec, de_thread() -> wait_for_notify_count() */
> if (tsk->signal->notify_count < 0 && !++tsk->signal->notify_count)
> wake_up_process(tsk->signal->group_exec_task);
>
> Then setup_new_exec() sets notify_count > 0 for __exit_signal() which does
>
> /* mt-exec, setup_new_exec() -> wait_for_notify_count() */
> if (sig->notify_count > 0 && !--sig->notify_count)
> wake_up_process(sig->group_exec_task);
>
> Yes this needs more comments and (with or without this patch) cleanups.
> Note that exit_notify() and __exit_signal() already (before this patch)
> use ->notify_count almost the same way, just exit_notify() assumes that
> notify_count < 0 means the !thread_group_leader() case in de_thread().
Yeah, just realized. It's been a long time since I looked into this signals
and tasks related code so to be honest don't think I would be helpful here)
Anyway while looking into patch I got wonder why
+static int wait_for_notify_count(struct task_struct *tsk)
+{
+ for (;;) {
+ return -EINTR;
+ set_current_state(TASK_KILLABLE);
+ if (!tsk->signal->notify_count)
+ break;
We have no any barrier here in fetching @notify_count? I mean updating
this value is done under locks (spin or read/write) in turn condition
test is a raw one. Not a big deal since set_current_state() and schedule()
are buffer flushers by themselves and after all not immediate update of
notify_count simply force us to yield one more schedule() call but I've
been a bit confused that we don't use some read_once here or something.
Another (more likely) that I've just said something stupid)
+ schedule();
}
+ __set_current_state(TASK_RUNNING);
+ return 0;
+}
Cyrill
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[not found] ` <AM8PR10MB470875B22B4C08BEAEC3F77FE4169@AM8PR10MB4708.EURPRD10.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
2023-10-30 5:20 ` [PATCH v12] exec: Fix dead-lock in de_thread with ptrace_attach Bernd Edlinger
2023-10-30 9:00 ` kernel test robot
[not found] ` <AS8P193MB12851AC1F862B97FCE9B3F4FE4AAA@AS8P193MB1285.EURP193.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
2024-01-15 19:22 ` [PATCH v14] " Bernd Edlinger
2024-01-15 19:37 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-17 9:51 ` Bernd Edlinger
2024-01-16 15:22 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-01-17 15:07 ` Bernd Edlinger
2024-01-17 16:38 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-01-22 13:24 ` Bernd Edlinger
2024-01-22 13:44 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-01-22 21:30 ` Kees Cook
2024-01-23 18:30 ` Bernd Edlinger
2024-01-24 0:09 ` Kees Cook
[not found] ` <AS8P193MB1285937F9831CECAF2A9EEE2E4752@AS8P193MB1285.EURP193.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
2025-08-18 6:04 ` [PATCH v15] " Jain, Ayush
2025-08-18 20:53 ` [PATCH v16] " Bernd Edlinger
2025-08-19 4:36 ` Kees Cook
2025-08-19 18:53 ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-08-21 17:34 ` [PATCH v17] " Bernd Edlinger
2025-10-27 6:26 ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-10-27 12:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-02 16:17 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-05 14:32 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-11 9:21 ` Christian Brauner
2025-11-11 11:07 ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-11 13:12 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-11 13:45 ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-12 9:52 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-17 6:31 ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-17 15:01 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-17 20:08 ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-23 18:32 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-29 15:06 ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-12-01 15:13 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-09 17:14 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] mt-exec: fix deadlock with ptrace_attach() Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-09 17:14 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] exec: make setup_new_exec() return int Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-09 17:15 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] exec: don't wait for zombie threads with cred_guard_mutex held Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-10 10:58 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2025-11-10 15:09 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-10 21:49 ` Cyrill Gorcunov [this message]
2025-11-11 14:09 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-09 17:16 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] ptrace: ensure PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT won't stop if the tracee is killed by exec Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-10 5:28 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] mt-exec: fix deadlock with ptrace_attach() Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-10 14:47 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-18 18:13 ` [PATCH v18] exec: Fix dead-lock in de_thread with ptrace_attach Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-20 15:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-11-20 17:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-11-20 20:57 ` [RFC][PATCH] exec: Move cred computation under exec_update_lock Eric W. Biederman
2025-11-20 23:50 ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-11-21 2:59 ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-21 7:18 ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-11-21 9:35 ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-21 11:26 ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-21 19:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-11-21 23:06 ` Ryan Lee
2025-11-23 18:52 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-23 23:22 ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-11-25 16:19 ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-25 11:55 ` Roberto Sassu
2025-12-01 16:06 ` Are setuid shell scripts safe? (Implied by security_bprm_creds_for_exec) Eric W. Biederman
2025-12-01 16:49 ` Roberto Sassu
2025-12-01 18:53 ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-12-01 21:39 ` David Laight
2025-12-03 13:16 ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-12-04 5:49 ` Al Viro
2025-12-04 9:32 ` David Laight
2025-12-04 13:03 ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-12-04 15:43 ` Stephen Smalley
2025-11-22 17:10 ` [PATCH v18] exec: Fix dead-lock in de_thread with ptrace_attach Bernd Edlinger
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