From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
libaokun@huaweicloud.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, surenb@google.com,
jackmanb@google.com, hannes@cmpxchg.org, ziy@nvidia.com,
jack@suse.cz, yi.zhang@huawei.com, yangerkun@huawei.com,
libaokun1@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] mm: allow __GFP_NOFAIL allocation up to BLK_MAX_BLOCK_SIZE to support LBS
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2025 13:50:04 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aQn2fIcj9LduzsmI@tiehlicka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a0015508-e72b-4b1c-9993-7e66076a0a19@suse.cz>
On Tue 04-11-25 13:32:52, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 11/4/25 11:31 AM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Mon 03-11-25 10:25:40, Michal Hocko wrote:
> >> On Mon 03-11-25 10:01:54, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> >>> Maybe we could keep the warning for >=PMD_ORDER as that would still mean
> >>> someone made an error?
> >>
> >> I am not sure TBH. For those large requests (anything that is costly
> >> order) it is essentially a loop around allocator inside the allocator.
> >> I would be really much more worried about order-3 which still triggers
> >> the oom killer and could kill half of the system without much progress.
> >> For oder-2 you at least have task_struct which spans 2 pages but I do
> >> not think we have any guaranteed order-3 page for each task to guarantee
> >> anything when killing those.
> >
> > Essentially something like this
> > diff --git a/mm/oom_kill.c b/mm/oom_kill.c
> > index 25923cfec9c6..2df477d97cee 100644
> > --- a/mm/oom_kill.c
> > +++ b/mm/oom_kill.c
> > @@ -1142,6 +1142,14 @@ bool out_of_memory(struct oom_control *oc)
> > if (!(oc->gfp_mask & __GFP_FS) && !is_memcg_oom(oc))
> > return true;
> >
> > + /*
> > + * unlike for other !costly requests killing a task is not
> > + * really guaranteed to free any order-3 pages. Warn about
> > + * that to see whether that happens often enough to special
> > + * case.
> > + */
> > + WARN_ON(oc->order == 3 && (oc->gfp_mask & __GFP_NOFAIL));
>
> OK, it might not create an order-3 page immediately. But I'd expect it
> allows compaction to make progress thanks to making more free memory
> available? We do retry reclaim/compaction after OOM killing one process,
> and don't just kill until we succeed allocating, right?
Yes we do go through the reclaim/compaction cycle. Do you think this
warning is overzealous? Th idea is that a flood of OOMs could be easier
to pin point with this in place. It doesn't have to be full WARN_ON,
maybe pr_warn would be sufficient as the backtrace is usually printed
in the oom report.
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-04 12:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-31 6:13 libaokun
2025-10-31 7:25 ` Michal Hocko
2025-10-31 10:12 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-31 14:26 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-10-31 15:35 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-10-31 15:52 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-10-31 15:54 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-10-31 16:46 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-10-31 16:55 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-11-03 2:45 ` Baokun Li
2025-11-03 7:55 ` Michal Hocko
2025-11-03 9:01 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-11-03 9:25 ` Michal Hocko
2025-11-04 10:31 ` Michal Hocko
2025-11-04 12:32 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-11-04 12:50 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2025-11-04 12:57 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-11-04 16:43 ` Michal Hocko
2025-11-05 6:23 ` Baokun Li
2025-11-03 18:53 ` Shakeel Butt
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