From: Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>
To: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, vbabka@suse.cz, andreyknvl@gmail.com,
cl@linux.com, dvyukov@google.com, glider@google.com,
hannes@cmpxchg.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, mhocko@kernel.org,
muchun.song@linux.dev, rientjes@google.com,
roman.gushchin@linux.dev, ryabinin.a.a@gmail.com,
shakeel.butt@linux.dev, vincenzo.frascino@arm.com,
yeoreum.yun@arm.com, tytso@mit.edu, adilger.kernel@dilger.ca,
linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH V3 5/7] mm/memcontrol,alloc_tag: handle slabobj_ext access under KASAN poison
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2025 17:06:37 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aQHLDTwwEuswvNWv@hyeyoo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJuCfpG=Lb4WhYuPkSpdNO4Ehtjm1YcEEK0OM=3g9i=LxmpHSQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 04:03:22PM -0700, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 5:29 AM Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com> wrote:
> >
> > In the near future, slabobj_ext may reside outside the allocated slab
> > object range within a slab, which could be reported as an out-of-bounds
> > access by KASAN. To prevent false positives, explicitly disable KASAN
> > and KMSAN checks when accessing slabobj_ext.
>
> Hmm. This is fragile IMO. Every time someone accesses slabobj_ext they
> should remember to call
> metadata_access_enable/metadata_access_disable.
Good point!
> Have you considered replacing slab_obj_ext() function with
> get_slab_obj_ext()/put_slab_obj_ext()? get_slab_obj_ext() can call
> metadata_access_enable() and return slabobj_ext as it does today.
> put_slab_obj_ext() will simple call metadata_access_disable(). WDYT?
I did think about it, and I thought introducing get and put helpers
may be misunderstood as doing some kind of reference counting...
but yeah probably I'm being too paranoid and
I'll try this and document that
1) the user needs to use get and put pair to access slabobj_ext
metadata, and
2) calling get and put pair multiple times has no effect.
> > While an alternative approach could be to unpoison slabobj_ext,
> > out-of-bounds accesses outside the slab allocator are generally more
> > common.
> >
> > Move metadata_access_enable()/disable() helpers to mm/slab.h so that
> > it can be used outside mm/slub.c. Wrap accesses to slabobj_ext metadata
> > in memcg and alloc_tag code with these helpers.
> >
> > Call kasan_reset_tag() in slab_obj_ext() before returning the address to
> > prevent SW or HW tag-based KASAN from reporting false positives.
> >
> > Suggested-by: Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@gmail.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>
> > ---
--
Cheers,
Harry / Hyeonggon
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-29 8:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-27 12:28 [RFC PATCH V3 0/7] mm/slab: reduce slab accounting memory overhead by allocating slabobj_ext metadata within unused slab space Harry Yoo
2025-10-27 12:28 ` [RFC PATCH V3 1/7] mm/slab: allow specifying freepointer offset when using constructor Harry Yoo
2025-10-28 17:43 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-10-29 7:10 ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-30 14:35 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-27 12:28 ` [RFC PATCH V3 2/7] ext4: specify the free pointer offset for ext4_inode_cache Harry Yoo
2025-10-28 17:22 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-10-28 17:25 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-10-27 12:28 ` [RFC PATCH V3 3/7] mm/slab: abstract slabobj_ext access via new slab_obj_ext() helper Harry Yoo
2025-10-28 17:55 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-10-29 8:49 ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-29 15:24 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-10-30 1:26 ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-30 5:03 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-10-27 12:28 ` [RFC PATCH V3 4/7] mm/slab: use stride to access slabobj_ext Harry Yoo
2025-10-28 20:10 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-10-27 12:28 ` [RFC PATCH V3 5/7] mm/memcontrol,alloc_tag: handle slabobj_ext access under KASAN poison Harry Yoo
2025-10-28 23:03 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-10-29 8:06 ` Harry Yoo [this message]
2025-10-29 15:28 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-10-27 12:28 ` [RFC PATCH V3 6/7] mm/slab: save memory by allocating slabobj_ext array from leftover Harry Yoo
2025-10-29 3:07 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-10-29 7:59 ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-29 18:37 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-10-30 0:40 ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-30 16:33 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-29 18:45 ` Andrey Ryabinin
2025-10-30 1:11 ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-27 12:28 ` [RFC PATCH V3 7/7] mm/slab: place slabobj_ext metadata in unused space within s->size Harry Yoo
2025-10-29 3:19 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-10-29 18:19 ` Andrey Ryabinin
2025-10-30 0:51 ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-30 12:41 ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-10-30 16:39 ` [RFC PATCH V3 0/7] mm/slab: reduce slab accounting memory overhead by allocating slabobj_ext metadata within unused slab space Vlastimil Babka
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