From: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
kernel-team@meta.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org, vbabka@suse.cz,
surenb@google.com, mhocko@suse.com, jackmanb@google.com,
hannes@cmpxchg.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] page_alloc: allow migration of smaller hugepages during contig_alloc.
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2025 15:58:30 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aPaUZm0ZfIEW3gUr@gourry-fedora-PF4VCD3F> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0d92a675-ab24-4b1c-be71-956f09a9e973@redhat.com>
On Mon, Oct 20, 2025 at 09:46:21PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 20.10.25 21:40, Gregory Price wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 20, 2025 at 09:18:36PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Basically, what is the right way of checking a folio order without lock?
> > > > Should we have a standardized helper function for that?
> > >
> > > As raised, snapshot_page() tries to stabilize the folio best it can.
> >
> > is snapshot_page() even worth it if we're already racing on flag checks?
>
> I think it tries to handle what compound_order() cannot easily handle, as it
> will retry in case it detects an obvious race.
>
> >
> > i.e. there's already a race condition between
> >
> > pfn_range_valid_contig(range) -> compaction(range)
>
> Can you elaborate how compaction comes into play here? I'm missing the
> interaction.
>
> pfn_range_valid_contig() should be only called by alloc_contig_pages() and
> not out of compaction context?
>
I've been digging through the code a bit, so a quick shot from my notes
alloc_contig_pages_noprof
if (pfn_range_valid_contig(range)) <- check validity
__alloc_contig_pages(range)
alloc_contig_range_noprof(range)
start_isolate_page_range(range) <- isolate
__alloc_contig_migrate_range(range)
isolate_migratepages_range(range) <- compact
Seems like all the checks done in pfn_range_valid_contig() already race
with everything after it anyway since references aren't held? Any of
those pages could be freed (get bogus values), but i suppose not
allocated (given the zone lock is held)?
> > Seems like the correct interface given the scenario. I'll poke around.
>
> Yes, avoiding folios altogether is even better. As documented, it can result
> in crazy values due to races that must be handled (like compaction, yes).
>
i'll make this swap then.
~Gregory
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-20 19:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-20 17:06 Gregory Price
2025-10-20 17:24 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-20 17:41 ` Gregory Price
2025-10-20 19:15 ` Zi Yan
2025-10-20 19:18 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-20 19:40 ` Gregory Price
2025-10-20 19:46 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-20 19:58 ` Gregory Price [this message]
2025-10-20 20:17 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-20 20:27 ` Gregory Price
2025-10-20 20:38 ` David Hildenbrand
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