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* Re: [PATCH] arm64, mm: avoid always making PTE dirty in pte_mkwrite()
       [not found] <20251015023712.46598-1-ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>
@ 2025-10-17 18:06 ` Catalin Marinas
  2025-10-20  2:09   ` Anshuman Khandual
  2025-10-20 11:00   ` Huang, Ying
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Catalin Marinas @ 2025-10-17 18:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Huang Ying
  Cc: Will Deacon, Anshuman Khandual, Ryan Roberts, Gavin Shan,
	Ard Biesheuvel, Matthew Wilcox (Oracle),
	Yicong Yang, linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel, linux-mm

On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 10:37:12AM +0800, Huang Ying wrote:
> Current pte_mkwrite_novma() makes PTE dirty unconditionally.  This may
> mark some pages that are never written dirty wrongly.  For example,
> do_swap_page() may map the exclusive pages with writable and clean PTEs
> if the VMA is writable and the page fault is for read access.
> However, current pte_mkwrite_novma() implementation always dirties the
> PTE.  This may cause unnecessary disk writing if the pages are
> never written before being reclaimed.
> 
> So, change pte_mkwrite_novma() to clear the PTE_RDONLY bit only if the
> PTE_DIRTY bit is set to make it possible to make the PTE writable and
> clean.
> 
> The current behavior was introduced in commit 73e86cb03cf2 ("arm64:
> Move PTE_RDONLY bit handling out of set_pte_at()").  Before that,
> pte_mkwrite() only sets the PTE_WRITE bit, while set_pte_at() only
> clears the PTE_RDONLY bit if both the PTE_WRITE and the PTE_DIRTY bits
> are set.
> 
> To test the performance impact of the patch, on an arm64 server
> machine, run 16 redis-server processes on socket 1 and 16
> memtier_benchmark processes on socket 0 with mostly get
> transactions (that is, redis-server will mostly read memory only).
> The memory footprint of redis-server is larger than the available
> memory, so swap out/in will be triggered.  Test results show that the
> patch can avoid most swapping out because the pages are mostly clean.
> And the benchmark throughput improves ~23.9% in the test.
> 
> Fixes: 73e86cb03cf2 ("arm64: Move PTE_RDONLY bit handling out of set_pte_at()")
> Signed-off-by: Huang Ying <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>
> Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
> Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
> Cc: Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>
> Cc: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
> Cc: Gavin Shan <gshan@redhat.com>
> Cc: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
> Cc: "Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>
> Cc: Yicong Yang <yangyicong@hisilicon.com>
> Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
> Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> ---
>  arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable.h | 3 ++-
>  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable.h b/arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable.h
> index aa89c2e67ebc..0944e296dd4a 100644
> --- a/arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable.h
> +++ b/arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable.h
> @@ -293,7 +293,8 @@ static inline pmd_t set_pmd_bit(pmd_t pmd, pgprot_t prot)
>  static inline pte_t pte_mkwrite_novma(pte_t pte)
>  {
>  	pte = set_pte_bit(pte, __pgprot(PTE_WRITE));
> -	pte = clear_pte_bit(pte, __pgprot(PTE_RDONLY));
> +	if (pte_sw_dirty(pte))
> +		pte = clear_pte_bit(pte, __pgprot(PTE_RDONLY));
>  	return pte;
>  }

This seems to be the right thing. I recall years ago I grep'ed
(obviously not hard enough) and most pte_mkwrite() places had a
pte_mkdirty(). But I missed do_swap_page() and possibly others.

For this patch:

Reviewed-by: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>

I wonder whether we should also add (as a separate patch):

diff --git a/mm/debug_vm_pgtable.c b/mm/debug_vm_pgtable.c
index 830107b6dd08..df1c552ef11c 100644
--- a/mm/debug_vm_pgtable.c
+++ b/mm/debug_vm_pgtable.c
@@ -101,6 +101,7 @@ static void __init pte_basic_tests(struct pgtable_debug_args *args, int idx)
 	WARN_ON(pte_dirty(pte_mkclean(pte_mkdirty(pte))));
 	WARN_ON(pte_write(pte_wrprotect(pte_mkwrite(pte, args->vma))));
 	WARN_ON(pte_dirty(pte_wrprotect(pte_mkclean(pte))));
+	WARN_ON(pte_dirty(pte_mkwrite_novma(pte_mkclean(pte))));
 	WARN_ON(!pte_dirty(pte_wrprotect(pte_mkdirty(pte))));
 }

For completeness, also (and maybe other combinations):

	WARN_ON(!pte_write(pte_mkdirty(pte_mkwrite_novma(pte))));

I cc'ed linux-mm in case we missed anything. If nothing raised, I'll
queue it next week.

Thanks.

-- 
Catalin


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* Re: [PATCH] arm64, mm: avoid always making PTE dirty in pte_mkwrite()
  2025-10-17 18:06 ` [PATCH] arm64, mm: avoid always making PTE dirty in pte_mkwrite() Catalin Marinas
@ 2025-10-20  2:09   ` Anshuman Khandual
  2025-10-20 11:04     ` Huang, Ying
  2025-10-20 19:17     ` David Hildenbrand
  2025-10-20 11:00   ` Huang, Ying
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Anshuman Khandual @ 2025-10-20  2:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Catalin Marinas, Huang Ying
  Cc: Will Deacon, Ryan Roberts, Gavin Shan, Ard Biesheuvel,
	Matthew Wilcox (Oracle),
	Yicong Yang, linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel, linux-mm



On 17/10/25 11:36 PM, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 10:37:12AM +0800, Huang Ying wrote:
>> Current pte_mkwrite_novma() makes PTE dirty unconditionally.  This may
>> mark some pages that are never written dirty wrongly.  For example,
>> do_swap_page() may map the exclusive pages with writable and clean PTEs
>> if the VMA is writable and the page fault is for read access.
>> However, current pte_mkwrite_novma() implementation always dirties the
>> PTE.  This may cause unnecessary disk writing if the pages are
>> never written before being reclaimed.
>>
>> So, change pte_mkwrite_novma() to clear the PTE_RDONLY bit only if the
>> PTE_DIRTY bit is set to make it possible to make the PTE writable and
>> clean.
>>
>> The current behavior was introduced in commit 73e86cb03cf2 ("arm64:
>> Move PTE_RDONLY bit handling out of set_pte_at()").  Before that,
>> pte_mkwrite() only sets the PTE_WRITE bit, while set_pte_at() only
>> clears the PTE_RDONLY bit if both the PTE_WRITE and the PTE_DIRTY bits
>> are set.
>>
>> To test the performance impact of the patch, on an arm64 server
>> machine, run 16 redis-server processes on socket 1 and 16
>> memtier_benchmark processes on socket 0 with mostly get
>> transactions (that is, redis-server will mostly read memory only).
>> The memory footprint of redis-server is larger than the available
>> memory, so swap out/in will be triggered.  Test results show that the
>> patch can avoid most swapping out because the pages are mostly clean.
>> And the benchmark throughput improves ~23.9% in the test.
>>
>> Fixes: 73e86cb03cf2 ("arm64: Move PTE_RDONLY bit handling out of set_pte_at()")
>> Signed-off-by: Huang Ying <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>
>> Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
>> Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
>> Cc: Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>
>> Cc: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
>> Cc: Gavin Shan <gshan@redhat.com>
>> Cc: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
>> Cc: "Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>
>> Cc: Yicong Yang <yangyicong@hisilicon.com>
>> Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
>> Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
>> ---
>>  arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable.h | 3 ++-
>>  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable.h b/arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable.h
>> index aa89c2e67ebc..0944e296dd4a 100644
>> --- a/arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable.h
>> +++ b/arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable.h
>> @@ -293,7 +293,8 @@ static inline pmd_t set_pmd_bit(pmd_t pmd, pgprot_t prot)
>>  static inline pte_t pte_mkwrite_novma(pte_t pte)
>>  {
>>  	pte = set_pte_bit(pte, __pgprot(PTE_WRITE));
>> -	pte = clear_pte_bit(pte, __pgprot(PTE_RDONLY));
>> +	if (pte_sw_dirty(pte))
>> +		pte = clear_pte_bit(pte, __pgprot(PTE_RDONLY));
>>  	return pte;
>>  }
> 
> This seems to be the right thing. I recall years ago I grep'ed
> (obviously not hard enough) and most pte_mkwrite() places had a
> pte_mkdirty(). But I missed do_swap_page() and possibly others.
> 
> For this patch:
> 
> Reviewed-by: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
> 
> I wonder whether we should also add (as a separate patch):
> 
> diff --git a/mm/debug_vm_pgtable.c b/mm/debug_vm_pgtable.c
> index 830107b6dd08..df1c552ef11c 100644
> --- a/mm/debug_vm_pgtable.c
> +++ b/mm/debug_vm_pgtable.c
> @@ -101,6 +101,7 @@ static void __init pte_basic_tests(struct pgtable_debug_args *args, int idx)
>  	WARN_ON(pte_dirty(pte_mkclean(pte_mkdirty(pte))));
>  	WARN_ON(pte_write(pte_wrprotect(pte_mkwrite(pte, args->vma))));
>  	WARN_ON(pte_dirty(pte_wrprotect(pte_mkclean(pte))));
> +	WARN_ON(pte_dirty(pte_mkwrite_novma(pte_mkclean(pte))));
>  	WARN_ON(!pte_dirty(pte_wrprotect(pte_mkdirty(pte))));
>  }
> 
> For completeness, also (and maybe other combinations):
> 
> 	WARN_ON(!pte_write(pte_mkdirty(pte_mkwrite_novma(pte))));

Adding similar tests to pte_wrprotect().

diff --git a/mm/debug_vm_pgtable.c b/mm/debug_vm_pgtable.c
index 830107b6dd08..573632ebf304 100644
--- a/mm/debug_vm_pgtable.c
+++ b/mm/debug_vm_pgtable.c
@@ -102,6 +102,11 @@ static void __init pte_basic_tests(struct pgtable_debug_args *args, int idx)
        WARN_ON(pte_write(pte_wrprotect(pte_mkwrite(pte, args->vma))));
        WARN_ON(pte_dirty(pte_wrprotect(pte_mkclean(pte))));
        WARN_ON(!pte_dirty(pte_wrprotect(pte_mkdirty(pte))));
+
+       WARN_ON(pte_dirty(pte_mkwrite_novma(pte_mkclean(pte))));
+       WARN_ON(!pte_write(pte_mkdirty(pte_mkwrite_novma(pte))));
+       WARN_ON(!pte_write(pte_mkwrite_novma(pte_wrprotect(pte))));
+       WARN_ON(pte_write(pte_wrprotect(pte_mkwrite_novma(pte))));
 }

 static void __init pte_advanced_tests(struct pgtable_debug_args *args)
@@ -195,6 +200,9 @@ static void __init pmd_basic_tests(struct pgtable_debug_args *args, int idx)
        WARN_ON(pmd_write(pmd_wrprotect(pmd_mkwrite(pmd, args->vma))));
        WARN_ON(pmd_dirty(pmd_wrprotect(pmd_mkclean(pmd))));
        WARN_ON(!pmd_dirty(pmd_wrprotect(pmd_mkdirty(pmd))));
+
+       WARN_ON(!pmd_write(pmd_mkwrite_novma(pmd_wrprotect(pmd))));
+       WARN_ON(pmd_write(pmd_wrprotect(pmd_mkwrite_novma(pmd))));
        /*
         * A huge page does not point to next level page table
         * entry. Hence this must qualify as pmd_bad().
> 
> I cc'ed linux-mm in case we missed anything. If nothing raised, I'll
> queue it next week.
> 
> Thanks.
> 



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* Re: [PATCH] arm64, mm: avoid always making PTE dirty in pte_mkwrite()
  2025-10-17 18:06 ` [PATCH] arm64, mm: avoid always making PTE dirty in pte_mkwrite() Catalin Marinas
  2025-10-20  2:09   ` Anshuman Khandual
@ 2025-10-20 11:00   ` Huang, Ying
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Huang, Ying @ 2025-10-20 11:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Catalin Marinas
  Cc: Will Deacon, Anshuman Khandual, Ryan Roberts, Gavin Shan,
	Ard Biesheuvel, Matthew Wilcox (Oracle),
	Yicong Yang, linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel, linux-mm

Hi, Catalin,

Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com> writes:

> On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 10:37:12AM +0800, Huang Ying wrote:
>> Current pte_mkwrite_novma() makes PTE dirty unconditionally.  This may
>> mark some pages that are never written dirty wrongly.  For example,
>> do_swap_page() may map the exclusive pages with writable and clean PTEs
>> if the VMA is writable and the page fault is for read access.
>> However, current pte_mkwrite_novma() implementation always dirties the
>> PTE.  This may cause unnecessary disk writing if the pages are
>> never written before being reclaimed.
>> 
>> So, change pte_mkwrite_novma() to clear the PTE_RDONLY bit only if the
>> PTE_DIRTY bit is set to make it possible to make the PTE writable and
>> clean.
>> 
>> The current behavior was introduced in commit 73e86cb03cf2 ("arm64:
>> Move PTE_RDONLY bit handling out of set_pte_at()").  Before that,
>> pte_mkwrite() only sets the PTE_WRITE bit, while set_pte_at() only
>> clears the PTE_RDONLY bit if both the PTE_WRITE and the PTE_DIRTY bits
>> are set.
>> 
>> To test the performance impact of the patch, on an arm64 server
>> machine, run 16 redis-server processes on socket 1 and 16
>> memtier_benchmark processes on socket 0 with mostly get
>> transactions (that is, redis-server will mostly read memory only).
>> The memory footprint of redis-server is larger than the available
>> memory, so swap out/in will be triggered.  Test results show that the
>> patch can avoid most swapping out because the pages are mostly clean.
>> And the benchmark throughput improves ~23.9% in the test.
>> 
>> Fixes: 73e86cb03cf2 ("arm64: Move PTE_RDONLY bit handling out of set_pte_at()")
>> Signed-off-by: Huang Ying <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>
>> Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
>> Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
>> Cc: Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>
>> Cc: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
>> Cc: Gavin Shan <gshan@redhat.com>
>> Cc: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
>> Cc: "Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>
>> Cc: Yicong Yang <yangyicong@hisilicon.com>
>> Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
>> Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
>> ---
>>  arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable.h | 3 ++-
>>  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>> 
>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable.h b/arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable.h
>> index aa89c2e67ebc..0944e296dd4a 100644
>> --- a/arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable.h
>> +++ b/arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable.h
>> @@ -293,7 +293,8 @@ static inline pmd_t set_pmd_bit(pmd_t pmd, pgprot_t prot)
>>  static inline pte_t pte_mkwrite_novma(pte_t pte)
>>  {
>>  	pte = set_pte_bit(pte, __pgprot(PTE_WRITE));
>> -	pte = clear_pte_bit(pte, __pgprot(PTE_RDONLY));
>> +	if (pte_sw_dirty(pte))
>> +		pte = clear_pte_bit(pte, __pgprot(PTE_RDONLY));
>>  	return pte;
>>  }
>
> This seems to be the right thing. I recall years ago I grep'ed
> (obviously not hard enough) and most pte_mkwrite() places had a
> pte_mkdirty(). But I missed do_swap_page() and possibly others.

The do_swap_page() change was introduced in June 2024, quite recently.

> For this patch:
>
> Reviewed-by: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>

Thanks!

> I wonder whether we should also add (as a separate patch):
>
> diff --git a/mm/debug_vm_pgtable.c b/mm/debug_vm_pgtable.c
> index 830107b6dd08..df1c552ef11c 100644
> --- a/mm/debug_vm_pgtable.c
> +++ b/mm/debug_vm_pgtable.c
> @@ -101,6 +101,7 @@ static void __init pte_basic_tests(struct pgtable_debug_args *args, int idx)
>  	WARN_ON(pte_dirty(pte_mkclean(pte_mkdirty(pte))));
>  	WARN_ON(pte_write(pte_wrprotect(pte_mkwrite(pte, args->vma))));
>  	WARN_ON(pte_dirty(pte_wrprotect(pte_mkclean(pte))));
> +	WARN_ON(pte_dirty(pte_mkwrite_novma(pte_mkclean(pte))));
>  	WARN_ON(!pte_dirty(pte_wrprotect(pte_mkdirty(pte))));
>  }
>
> For completeness, also (and maybe other combinations):
>
> 	WARN_ON(!pte_write(pte_mkdirty(pte_mkwrite_novma(pte))));

Sure.  Will add another patch for this.

> I cc'ed linux-mm in case we missed anything. If nothing raised, I'll
> queue it next week.

---
Best Regards,
Huang, Ying


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* Re: [PATCH] arm64, mm: avoid always making PTE dirty in pte_mkwrite()
  2025-10-20  2:09   ` Anshuman Khandual
@ 2025-10-20 11:04     ` Huang, Ying
  2025-10-20 19:17     ` David Hildenbrand
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Huang, Ying @ 2025-10-20 11:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Anshuman Khandual
  Cc: Catalin Marinas, Will Deacon, Ryan Roberts, Gavin Shan,
	Ard Biesheuvel, Matthew Wilcox (Oracle),
	Yicong Yang, linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel, linux-mm

Hi, Anshuman,

Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com> writes:

> On 17/10/25 11:36 PM, Catalin Marinas wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 10:37:12AM +0800, Huang Ying wrote:
>>> Current pte_mkwrite_novma() makes PTE dirty unconditionally.  This may
>>> mark some pages that are never written dirty wrongly.  For example,
>>> do_swap_page() may map the exclusive pages with writable and clean PTEs
>>> if the VMA is writable and the page fault is for read access.
>>> However, current pte_mkwrite_novma() implementation always dirties the
>>> PTE.  This may cause unnecessary disk writing if the pages are
>>> never written before being reclaimed.
>>>
>>> So, change pte_mkwrite_novma() to clear the PTE_RDONLY bit only if the
>>> PTE_DIRTY bit is set to make it possible to make the PTE writable and
>>> clean.
>>>
>>> The current behavior was introduced in commit 73e86cb03cf2 ("arm64:
>>> Move PTE_RDONLY bit handling out of set_pte_at()").  Before that,
>>> pte_mkwrite() only sets the PTE_WRITE bit, while set_pte_at() only
>>> clears the PTE_RDONLY bit if both the PTE_WRITE and the PTE_DIRTY bits
>>> are set.
>>>
>>> To test the performance impact of the patch, on an arm64 server
>>> machine, run 16 redis-server processes on socket 1 and 16
>>> memtier_benchmark processes on socket 0 with mostly get
>>> transactions (that is, redis-server will mostly read memory only).
>>> The memory footprint of redis-server is larger than the available
>>> memory, so swap out/in will be triggered.  Test results show that the
>>> patch can avoid most swapping out because the pages are mostly clean.
>>> And the benchmark throughput improves ~23.9% in the test.
>>>
>>> Fixes: 73e86cb03cf2 ("arm64: Move PTE_RDONLY bit handling out of set_pte_at()")
>>> Signed-off-by: Huang Ying <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>
>>> Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
>>> Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
>>> Cc: Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>
>>> Cc: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
>>> Cc: Gavin Shan <gshan@redhat.com>
>>> Cc: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
>>> Cc: "Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>
>>> Cc: Yicong Yang <yangyicong@hisilicon.com>
>>> Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
>>> Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
>>> ---
>>>  arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable.h | 3 ++-
>>>  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable.h b/arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable.h
>>> index aa89c2e67ebc..0944e296dd4a 100644
>>> --- a/arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable.h
>>> +++ b/arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable.h
>>> @@ -293,7 +293,8 @@ static inline pmd_t set_pmd_bit(pmd_t pmd, pgprot_t prot)
>>>  static inline pte_t pte_mkwrite_novma(pte_t pte)
>>>  {
>>>  	pte = set_pte_bit(pte, __pgprot(PTE_WRITE));
>>> -	pte = clear_pte_bit(pte, __pgprot(PTE_RDONLY));
>>> +	if (pte_sw_dirty(pte))
>>> +		pte = clear_pte_bit(pte, __pgprot(PTE_RDONLY));
>>>  	return pte;
>>>  }
>> 
>> This seems to be the right thing. I recall years ago I grep'ed
>> (obviously not hard enough) and most pte_mkwrite() places had a
>> pte_mkdirty(). But I missed do_swap_page() and possibly others.
>> 
>> For this patch:
>> 
>> Reviewed-by: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
>> 
>> I wonder whether we should also add (as a separate patch):
>> 
>> diff --git a/mm/debug_vm_pgtable.c b/mm/debug_vm_pgtable.c
>> index 830107b6dd08..df1c552ef11c 100644
>> --- a/mm/debug_vm_pgtable.c
>> +++ b/mm/debug_vm_pgtable.c
>> @@ -101,6 +101,7 @@ static void __init pte_basic_tests(struct pgtable_debug_args *args, int idx)
>>  	WARN_ON(pte_dirty(pte_mkclean(pte_mkdirty(pte))));
>>  	WARN_ON(pte_write(pte_wrprotect(pte_mkwrite(pte, args->vma))));
>>  	WARN_ON(pte_dirty(pte_wrprotect(pte_mkclean(pte))));
>> +	WARN_ON(pte_dirty(pte_mkwrite_novma(pte_mkclean(pte))));
>>  	WARN_ON(!pte_dirty(pte_wrprotect(pte_mkdirty(pte))));
>>  }
>> 
>> For completeness, also (and maybe other combinations):
>> 
>> 	WARN_ON(!pte_write(pte_mkdirty(pte_mkwrite_novma(pte))));
>
> Adding similar tests to pte_wrprotect().
>
> diff --git a/mm/debug_vm_pgtable.c b/mm/debug_vm_pgtable.c
> index 830107b6dd08..573632ebf304 100644
> --- a/mm/debug_vm_pgtable.c
> +++ b/mm/debug_vm_pgtable.c
> @@ -102,6 +102,11 @@ static void __init pte_basic_tests(struct pgtable_debug_args *args, int idx)
>         WARN_ON(pte_write(pte_wrprotect(pte_mkwrite(pte, args->vma))));
>         WARN_ON(pte_dirty(pte_wrprotect(pte_mkclean(pte))));
>         WARN_ON(!pte_dirty(pte_wrprotect(pte_mkdirty(pte))));
> +
> +       WARN_ON(pte_dirty(pte_mkwrite_novma(pte_mkclean(pte))));
> +       WARN_ON(!pte_write(pte_mkdirty(pte_mkwrite_novma(pte))));
> +       WARN_ON(!pte_write(pte_mkwrite_novma(pte_wrprotect(pte))));
> +       WARN_ON(pte_write(pte_wrprotect(pte_mkwrite_novma(pte))));
>  }
>
>  static void __init pte_advanced_tests(struct pgtable_debug_args *args)
> @@ -195,6 +200,9 @@ static void __init pmd_basic_tests(struct pgtable_debug_args *args, int idx)
>         WARN_ON(pmd_write(pmd_wrprotect(pmd_mkwrite(pmd, args->vma))));
>         WARN_ON(pmd_dirty(pmd_wrprotect(pmd_mkclean(pmd))));
>         WARN_ON(!pmd_dirty(pmd_wrprotect(pmd_mkdirty(pmd))));
> +
> +       WARN_ON(!pmd_write(pmd_mkwrite_novma(pmd_wrprotect(pmd))));
> +       WARN_ON(pmd_write(pmd_wrprotect(pmd_mkwrite_novma(pmd))));
>         /*
>          * A huge page does not point to next level page table
>          * entry. Hence this must qualify as pmd_bad().

Thanks!

I can add a patch for these tests.  Or, do you want to work on it?

>> 
>> I cc'ed linux-mm in case we missed anything. If nothing raised, I'll
>> queue it next week.

---
Best Regards,
Huang, Ying


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* Re: [PATCH] arm64, mm: avoid always making PTE dirty in pte_mkwrite()
  2025-10-20  2:09   ` Anshuman Khandual
  2025-10-20 11:04     ` Huang, Ying
@ 2025-10-20 19:17     ` David Hildenbrand
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: David Hildenbrand @ 2025-10-20 19:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Anshuman Khandual, Catalin Marinas, Huang Ying
  Cc: Will Deacon, Ryan Roberts, Gavin Shan, Ard Biesheuvel,
	Matthew Wilcox (Oracle),
	Yicong Yang, linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel, linux-mm

On 20.10.25 04:09, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> 
> 
> On 17/10/25 11:36 PM, Catalin Marinas wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 10:37:12AM +0800, Huang Ying wrote:
>>> Current pte_mkwrite_novma() makes PTE dirty unconditionally.  This may
>>> mark some pages that are never written dirty wrongly.  For example,
>>> do_swap_page() may map the exclusive pages with writable and clean PTEs
>>> if the VMA is writable and the page fault is for read access.
>>> However, current pte_mkwrite_novma() implementation always dirties the
>>> PTE.  This may cause unnecessary disk writing if the pages are
>>> never written before being reclaimed.
>>>
>>> So, change pte_mkwrite_novma() to clear the PTE_RDONLY bit only if the
>>> PTE_DIRTY bit is set to make it possible to make the PTE writable and
>>> clean.
>>>
>>> The current behavior was introduced in commit 73e86cb03cf2 ("arm64:
>>> Move PTE_RDONLY bit handling out of set_pte_at()").  Before that,
>>> pte_mkwrite() only sets the PTE_WRITE bit, while set_pte_at() only
>>> clears the PTE_RDONLY bit if both the PTE_WRITE and the PTE_DIRTY bits
>>> are set.
>>>
>>> To test the performance impact of the patch, on an arm64 server
>>> machine, run 16 redis-server processes on socket 1 and 16
>>> memtier_benchmark processes on socket 0 with mostly get
>>> transactions (that is, redis-server will mostly read memory only).
>>> The memory footprint of redis-server is larger than the available
>>> memory, so swap out/in will be triggered.  Test results show that the
>>> patch can avoid most swapping out because the pages are mostly clean.
>>> And the benchmark throughput improves ~23.9% in the test.
>>>
>>> Fixes: 73e86cb03cf2 ("arm64: Move PTE_RDONLY bit handling out of set_pte_at()")
>>> Signed-off-by: Huang Ying <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>
>>> Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
>>> Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
>>> Cc: Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>
>>> Cc: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
>>> Cc: Gavin Shan <gshan@redhat.com>
>>> Cc: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
>>> Cc: "Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>
>>> Cc: Yicong Yang <yangyicong@hisilicon.com>
>>> Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
>>> Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
>>> ---
>>>   arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable.h | 3 ++-
>>>   1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable.h b/arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable.h
>>> index aa89c2e67ebc..0944e296dd4a 100644
>>> --- a/arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable.h
>>> +++ b/arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable.h
>>> @@ -293,7 +293,8 @@ static inline pmd_t set_pmd_bit(pmd_t pmd, pgprot_t prot)
>>>   static inline pte_t pte_mkwrite_novma(pte_t pte)
>>>   {
>>>   	pte = set_pte_bit(pte, __pgprot(PTE_WRITE));
>>> -	pte = clear_pte_bit(pte, __pgprot(PTE_RDONLY));
>>> +	if (pte_sw_dirty(pte))
>>> +		pte = clear_pte_bit(pte, __pgprot(PTE_RDONLY));
>>>   	return pte;
>>>   }
>>
>> This seems to be the right thing. I recall years ago I grep'ed
>> (obviously not hard enough) and most pte_mkwrite() places had a
>> pte_mkdirty(). But I missed do_swap_page() and possibly others.
>>
>> For this patch:
>>
>> Reviewed-by: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
>>
>> I wonder whether we should also add (as a separate patch):
>>
>> diff --git a/mm/debug_vm_pgtable.c b/mm/debug_vm_pgtable.c
>> index 830107b6dd08..df1c552ef11c 100644
>> --- a/mm/debug_vm_pgtable.c
>> +++ b/mm/debug_vm_pgtable.c
>> @@ -101,6 +101,7 @@ static void __init pte_basic_tests(struct pgtable_debug_args *args, int idx)
>>   	WARN_ON(pte_dirty(pte_mkclean(pte_mkdirty(pte))));
>>   	WARN_ON(pte_write(pte_wrprotect(pte_mkwrite(pte, args->vma))));
>>   	WARN_ON(pte_dirty(pte_wrprotect(pte_mkclean(pte))));
>> +	WARN_ON(pte_dirty(pte_mkwrite_novma(pte_mkclean(pte))));
>>   	WARN_ON(!pte_dirty(pte_wrprotect(pte_mkdirty(pte))));
>>   }
>>
>> For completeness, also (and maybe other combinations):
>>
>> 	WARN_ON(!pte_write(pte_mkdirty(pte_mkwrite_novma(pte))));
> 
> Adding similar tests to pte_wrprotect().
> 
> diff --git a/mm/debug_vm_pgtable.c b/mm/debug_vm_pgtable.c
> index 830107b6dd08..573632ebf304 100644
> --- a/mm/debug_vm_pgtable.c
> +++ b/mm/debug_vm_pgtable.c
> @@ -102,6 +102,11 @@ static void __init pte_basic_tests(struct pgtable_debug_args *args, int idx)
>          WARN_ON(pte_write(pte_wrprotect(pte_mkwrite(pte, args->vma))));
>          WARN_ON(pte_dirty(pte_wrprotect(pte_mkclean(pte))));
>          WARN_ON(!pte_dirty(pte_wrprotect(pte_mkdirty(pte))));
> +
> +       WARN_ON(pte_dirty(pte_mkwrite_novma(pte_mkclean(pte))));
> +       WARN_ON(!pte_write(pte_mkdirty(pte_mkwrite_novma(pte))));
> +       WARN_ON(!pte_write(pte_mkwrite_novma(pte_wrprotect(pte))));
> +       WARN_ON(pte_write(pte_wrprotect(pte_mkwrite_novma(pte))));
>   }
> 
>   static void __init pte_advanced_tests(struct pgtable_debug_args *args)
> @@ -195,6 +200,9 @@ static void __init pmd_basic_tests(struct pgtable_debug_args *args, int idx)
>          WARN_ON(pmd_write(pmd_wrprotect(pmd_mkwrite(pmd, args->vma))));
>          WARN_ON(pmd_dirty(pmd_wrprotect(pmd_mkclean(pmd))));
>          WARN_ON(!pmd_dirty(pmd_wrprotect(pmd_mkdirty(pmd))));
> +
> +       WARN_ON(!pmd_write(pmd_mkwrite_novma(pmd_wrprotect(pmd))));
> +       WARN_ON(pmd_write(pmd_wrprotect(pmd_mkwrite_novma(pmd))));
>          /*
>           * A huge page does not point to next level page table
>           * entry. Hence this must qualify as pmd_bad().
>>
>> I cc'ed linux-mm in case we missed anything. If nothing raised, I'll
>> queue it next week.

Can we please send patches touching mm/debug_vm_pgtable.c properly to 
linux-mm?

I wrote tools/testing/selftests/mm/mkdirty.c a while ago. I wonder 
whether that could also be expressed in these tests here.

But my memory comes back: ARCH_HAS_DEBUG_VM_PGTABLE is not set by all 
architectures (and in particluar not sparc64 which I fixed back then)

-- 
Cheers

David / dhildenb



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