From: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
To: Jonathan Cameron <jonathan.cameron@huawei.com>
Cc: Yiannis Nikolakopoulos <yiannis.nikolakop@gmail.com>,
Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com>, David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 0/8] mm: Hot page tracking and promotion infrastructure
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2025 10:59:01 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aPJZtQS4wJ1fkJq-@gourry-fedora-PF4VCD3F> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251017153613.00004940@huawei.com>
On Fri, Oct 17, 2025 at 03:36:13PM +0100, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Oct 2025 10:15:57 -0400
> Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net> wrote:
> >
> > Essentially the platform needs to allow a single device to expose
> > multiple numa nodes based on different expected performance. From
> > those ranges. Then software needs to program the HDM decoders
> > appropriately.
>
> It's a bit 'fuzzy' to justify but maybe (for CXL) a CFWMS flag (so CEDT
> as you mention) to say this host memory region may be backed by
> compressed memory?
>
> Might be able to justify it from spec point of view by arguing that
> compression is a QoS related characteristic. Always possible host
> hardware will want to handle it differently before it even hits the
> bus even if it's just a case throttling writing differently.
>
That's a Consortium discussion to have (and I am not of the
consortium :P), but yeah you could do it that way.
More generally could have a "Not-for-general-consumption bit" instead
of specifically a compressed bit. Maybe both a "No-Consume" and a
"Special Node" bit would be useful separately.
Of course then platforms need to be made to understand all these:
"No-Consume" -> force EFI_MEMORY_SP or leave it reserved
"Special Node" -> allocate its own PXM / Provide discrete CFMWS
Naming obviously non-instructive here, may as well call them Nancy and
Bob bits.
> That then ends up in it's own NUMA node. Whether we take on the
> splitting CFMWS entries into multiple NUMA nodes depending on what
> backing devices end up in them is something we kicked into the long
> grass originally, but that can definitely be revisited. That
> doesn't matter for initial support of compressed memory though if
> we can do it via a seperate CXL Fixed Memory Window Structure (CFMWS)
> in CEDT.
>
This is the way I would initially approach it tbh - but i'm also not a
hardware/firmware person, so i don't know exactly what bits a device
would set to tell BIOS/EFI "Hey, give this chunk its own CFMWS", or if
that lies solely with BIOS/EFI.
~Gregory
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-17 14:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-10 14:46 Bharata B Rao
2025-09-10 14:46 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/8] mm: migrate: Allow misplaced migration without VMA too Bharata B Rao
2025-09-10 14:46 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/8] migrate: implement migrate_misplaced_folios_batch Bharata B Rao
2025-10-03 10:36 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-10-03 11:02 ` Bharata B Rao
2025-09-10 14:46 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/8] mm: Hot page tracking and promotion Bharata B Rao
2025-10-03 11:17 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-10-06 4:13 ` Bharata B Rao
2025-09-10 14:46 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/8] x86: ibs: In-kernel IBS driver for memory access profiling Bharata B Rao
2025-10-03 12:19 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-10-06 4:28 ` Bharata B Rao
2025-09-10 14:46 ` [RFC PATCH v2 5/8] x86: ibs: Enable IBS profiling for memory accesses Bharata B Rao
2025-10-03 12:22 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-09-10 14:46 ` [RFC PATCH v2 6/8] mm: mglru: generalize page table walk Bharata B Rao
2025-09-10 14:46 ` [RFC PATCH v2 7/8] mm: klruscand: use mglru scanning for page promotion Bharata B Rao
2025-10-03 12:30 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-09-10 14:46 ` [RFC PATCH v2 8/8] mm: sched: Move hot page promotion from NUMAB=2 to kpromoted Bharata B Rao
2025-10-03 12:38 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-10-06 5:57 ` Bharata B Rao
2025-10-06 9:53 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-09-10 15:39 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/8] mm: Hot page tracking and promotion infrastructure Matthew Wilcox
2025-09-10 16:01 ` Gregory Price
2025-09-16 19:45 ` David Rientjes
2025-09-16 22:02 ` Gregory Price
2025-09-17 0:30 ` Wei Xu
2025-09-17 3:20 ` Balbir Singh
2025-09-17 4:15 ` Bharata B Rao
2025-09-17 16:49 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-09-25 14:03 ` Yiannis Nikolakopoulos
2025-09-25 14:41 ` Gregory Price
2025-10-16 11:48 ` Yiannis Nikolakopoulos
2025-09-25 15:00 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-09-25 15:08 ` Gregory Price
2025-09-25 15:18 ` Gregory Price
2025-09-25 15:24 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-09-25 16:06 ` Gregory Price
2025-09-25 17:23 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-09-25 19:02 ` Gregory Price
2025-10-01 7:22 ` Gregory Price
2025-10-17 9:53 ` Yiannis Nikolakopoulos
2025-10-17 14:15 ` Gregory Price
2025-10-17 14:36 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-10-17 14:59 ` Gregory Price [this message]
2025-10-20 14:05 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-10-21 18:52 ` Gregory Price
2025-10-21 18:57 ` Gregory Price
2025-10-22 9:09 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-10-22 15:05 ` Gregory Price
2025-10-23 15:29 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-10-16 16:16 ` Yiannis Nikolakopoulos
2025-10-20 14:23 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-10-20 15:05 ` Gregory Price
2025-10-08 17:59 ` Vinicius Petrucci
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