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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, corbet@lwn.net, muchun.song@linux.dev,
	osalvador@suse.de, akpm@linux-foundation.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	laoar.shao@gmail.com, brauner@kernel.org, mclapinski@google.com,
	joel.granados@kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Alexandru Moise <00moses.alexander00@gmail.com>,
	Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revert "mm, hugetlb: remove hugepages_treat_as_movable sysctl"
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2025 16:59:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aOZ8PPWMchRN_t5-@tiehlicka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <402170e6-c49f-4d28-a010-eb253fc2f923@redhat.com>

On Wed 08-10-25 10:58:23, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 07.10.25 23:44, Gregory Price wrote:
[...]
> > @@ -926,7 +927,8 @@ static inline gfp_t htlb_alloc_mask(struct hstate *h)
> >   {
> >   	gfp_t gfp = __GFP_COMP | __GFP_NOWARN;
> > -	gfp |= hugepage_movable_supported(h) ? GFP_HIGHUSER_MOVABLE : GFP_HIGHUSER;
> > +	gfp |= (hugepage_movable_supported(h) || hugepages_treat_as_movable) ?
> > +	       GFP_HIGHUSER_MOVABLE : GFP_HIGHUSER;
> 
> I mean, this is as ugly as it gets.
> 
> Can't we just let that old approach RIP where it belongs? :)
> 
> If something unmovable, it does not belong on ZONE_MOVABLE, as simple as that.

yes, I do agree. This is just muddying the semantic of the zone.

Maybe what we really want is to have a configurable zone rather than a
very specific consumer of it instead. What do I mean by that? We clearly
have physically (DMA, DMA32) and usability (NORMAL, MOVABLE) constrained
zones. So rather than having a MOVABLE zone we can have a single zone
$FOO_NAME zone with configurable attributes - like allocation
constrains (kernel, user, movable, etc). Now that we can overlap zones
this should allow for quite a lot flexibility. Implementation wise this
would require some tricks as we have 2 zone types for potentially 3
different major usecases (kernel allocations, userspace reserved ranges
without movability and movable allocations). I haven't thought this
through completely and mostly throwing this as an idea (maybe won't
work). Does that make sense?
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-10-08 14:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-07 21:44 Gregory Price
2025-10-07 21:59 ` Andrew Morton
2025-10-07 22:12   ` Gregory Price
2025-10-08  8:58 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-08 14:18   ` Gregory Price
2025-10-08 14:44     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-08 18:58       ` Gregory Price
2025-10-08 19:01         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-08 19:44           ` Gregory Price
2025-10-08 19:52             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-08 19:59               ` Gregory Price
2025-10-08 14:59   ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2025-10-08 15:14     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-08 15:23       ` Michal Hocko
2025-10-08 15:43         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-08 16:31           ` Gregory Price
2025-10-09  6:14             ` Michal Hocko
2025-10-09 15:29               ` Gregory Price
2025-10-09 18:47                 ` Michal Hocko
2025-10-09 18:51                 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-09 21:31                   ` Gregory Price
2025-10-10  7:40                     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-10 18:53                       ` Gregory Price
2025-10-08 16:08     ` Frank van der Linden
2025-10-08 16:39       ` Gregory Price
2025-10-08 17:05       ` Gregory Price

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