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What I take out of this is > that it can be a pretty massive increase in the entry overhead (for NOHZ_FULL > CPUs), and that's something I want to hear thoughts on > > Noise > +++++ > > Xeon E5-2699 system with SMToff, NOHZ_FULL, isolated CPUs. > RHEL10 userspace. > > Workload is using rteval (kernel compilation + hackbench) on housekeeping CPUs > and a dummy stay-in-userspace loop on the isolated CPUs. The main invocation is: > > $ trace-cmd record -e "ipi_send_cpumask" -f "cpumask & CPUS{$ISOL_CPUS}" \ > -e "ipi_send_cpu" -f "cpu & CPUS{$ISOL_CPUS}" \ > rteval --onlyload --loads-cpulist=$HK_CPUS \ > --hackbench-runlowmem=True --duration=$DURATION > > This only records IPIs sent to isolated CPUs, so any event there is interference > (with a bit of fuzz at the start/end of the workload when spawning the > processes). All tests were done with a duration of 6 hours. > > v6.17 > o ~5400 IPIs received, so about ~200 interfering IPI per isolated CPU > o About one interfering IPI just shy of every 2 minutes > > v6.17 + patches > o Zilch! Nice. :) About performance, can we assume housekeeping CPUs are not affected by the change (they don't seem to use the trick anyway) or do we want/need to collect some numbers on them as well just in case (maybe more throughput oriented)? Thanks, Juri