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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	James Houghton <jthoughton@google.com>,
	Nikita Kalyazin <kalyazin@amazon.com>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	Ujwal Kundur <ujwal.kundur@gmail.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] mm: Introduce vm_uffd_ops API
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2025 14:48:51 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aNwmE11LirPtEuGW@x1.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f1da3505-f17f-4829-80c1-696b1d99057d@redhat.com>

On Tue, Sep 30, 2025 at 11:36:53AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > +/* VMA userfaultfd operations */
> > +struct vm_uffd_ops {
> > +	/**
> > +	 * @uffd_features: features supported in bitmask.
> > +	 *
> > +	 * When the ops is defined, the driver must set non-zero features
> > +	 * to be a subset (or all) of: VM_UFFD_MISSING|WP|MINOR.
> > +	 *
> > +	 * NOTE: VM_UFFD_MISSING is still only supported under mm/ so far.
> > +	 */
> > +	unsigned long uffd_features;
> 
> This variable name is a bit confusing , because it's all about vma flags,
> not uffd features. Just reading the variable, I would rather connect it to
> things like UFFD_FEATURE_WP_UNPOPULATED.
> 
> As currently used for VM flags, maybe you should call this
> 
> 	unsigned long uffd_vm_flags;
> 
> or sth like that.

Indeed it's slightly confusing.  However uffd_vm_flags is confusing in
another way, where it seems to imply some flags similar to vm_flags that is
prone to change.

How about uffd_vm_flags_supported / uffd_modes_supported?

> 
> I briefly wondered whether we could use actual UFFD_FEATURE_* here, but they
> are rather unsuited for this case here (e.g., different feature flags for
> hugetlb support/shmem support etc).
> 
> But reading "uffd_ioctls" below, can't we derive the suitable vma flags from
> the supported ioctls?
> 
> _UFFDIO_COPY | _UFDIO_ZEROPAGE -> VM_UFFD_MISSING
> _UFFDIO_WRITEPROTECT -> VM_UFFD_WP
> _UFFDIO_CONTINUE -> VM_UFFD_MINOR

Yes we can deduce that, but it'll be unclear then when one stares at a
bunch of ioctls and cannot easily digest the modes the memory type
supports.  Here, the modes should be the most straightforward way to
describe the capability of a memory type.

If hugetlbfs supported ZEROPAGE, then we can deduce the ioctls the other
way round, and we can drop the uffd_ioctls.  However we need the ioctls now
for hugetlbfs to make everything generic.

Do you mind I still keep it as-is?  So far that's still the clearest I can
think of.  It's only set when some support is added to a memory type, so
it's a one-time shot.

Thanks,

-- 
Peter Xu



  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-09-30 18:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-26 21:16 [PATCH v3 0/4] mm/userfaultfd: modulize memory types Peter Xu
2025-09-26 21:16 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] mm: Introduce vm_uffd_ops API Peter Xu
2025-09-30  9:36   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-30 10:07     ` Mike Rapoport
2025-09-30 10:18       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-30 18:39         ` Peter Xu
2025-09-30 18:48     ` Peter Xu [this message]
2025-09-30 19:19       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-30 20:35         ` Peter Xu
2025-10-01 13:58           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-01 14:35             ` Peter Xu
2025-10-01 14:39               ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-03 14:02                 ` Peter Xu
2025-10-06 13:38                   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-06 19:06                   ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-10-06 21:02                     ` Peter Xu
2025-10-07  3:31                       ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-10-07 13:51                         ` Peter Xu
2025-10-07 16:03                           ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-10-07 16:14                             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-07 16:47                               ` Peter Xu
2025-10-07 18:46                                 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-10-07 19:41                                   ` Peter Xu
2025-10-07 20:23                                     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-07 20:25                                     ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-10-07 20:40                                       ` Peter Xu
2025-09-26 21:16 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] mm/shmem: Support " Peter Xu
2025-09-26 21:16 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] mm/hugetlb: " Peter Xu
2025-09-26 21:16 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] mm: Apply vm_uffd_ops API to core mm Peter Xu
2025-09-30  9:23   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-30 18:52     ` Peter Xu
2025-09-30 19:49 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] mm/userfaultfd: modulize memory types Liam R. Howlett
2025-09-30 20:45   ` Peter Xu

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