From: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
To: Jonathan Cameron <jonathan.cameron@huawei.com>
Cc: Yiannis Nikolakopoulos <yiannis.nikolakop@gmail.com>,
Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com>, David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 0/8] mm: Hot page tracking and promotion infrastructure
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2025 12:06:28 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aNVohF0sPNZSuTgI@gourry-fedora-PF4VCD3F> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250925162426.00007474@huawei.com>
On Thu, Sep 25, 2025 at 04:24:26PM +0100, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> The CoW thing only works because it's a permissions fault at point of
> asking for permission to write (so way before it goes into the cache).
> Then you can check margins to make sure you can still sink all outstanding
> writes if they become uncompressible and only let the write through if safe
> - if not promote some stuff before letting it proceed.
> Or you just promote on write and rely on the demotion path performing those
> careful checks later.
>
Agreed. The question is now whether you can actually enforce page table
bits not changing. I think you'd need your own fault handling
infrastructure / driver for these pages.
This does smell a lot like a kernel-internal dax allocation interface.
There was a bunch of talk about virtualizing zswap backends, so that
might be a nice place to look to insert this kind of hook.
Then the device driver (which it will definitely need) would have to
field page faults accordingly.
It feels much more natural to put this as a zswap/zram backend.
~Gregory
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-25 16:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-10 14:46 Bharata B Rao
2025-09-10 14:46 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/8] mm: migrate: Allow misplaced migration without VMA too Bharata B Rao
2025-09-10 14:46 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/8] migrate: implement migrate_misplaced_folios_batch Bharata B Rao
2025-10-03 10:36 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-10-03 11:02 ` Bharata B Rao
2025-09-10 14:46 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/8] mm: Hot page tracking and promotion Bharata B Rao
2025-10-03 11:17 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-10-06 4:13 ` Bharata B Rao
2025-09-10 14:46 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/8] x86: ibs: In-kernel IBS driver for memory access profiling Bharata B Rao
2025-10-03 12:19 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-10-06 4:28 ` Bharata B Rao
2025-09-10 14:46 ` [RFC PATCH v2 5/8] x86: ibs: Enable IBS profiling for memory accesses Bharata B Rao
2025-10-03 12:22 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-09-10 14:46 ` [RFC PATCH v2 6/8] mm: mglru: generalize page table walk Bharata B Rao
2025-09-10 14:46 ` [RFC PATCH v2 7/8] mm: klruscand: use mglru scanning for page promotion Bharata B Rao
2025-10-03 12:30 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-09-10 14:46 ` [RFC PATCH v2 8/8] mm: sched: Move hot page promotion from NUMAB=2 to kpromoted Bharata B Rao
2025-10-03 12:38 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-10-06 5:57 ` Bharata B Rao
2025-10-06 9:53 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-09-10 15:39 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/8] mm: Hot page tracking and promotion infrastructure Matthew Wilcox
2025-09-10 16:01 ` Gregory Price
2025-09-16 19:45 ` David Rientjes
2025-09-16 22:02 ` Gregory Price
2025-09-17 0:30 ` Wei Xu
2025-09-17 3:20 ` Balbir Singh
2025-09-17 4:15 ` Bharata B Rao
2025-09-17 16:49 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-09-25 14:03 ` Yiannis Nikolakopoulos
2025-09-25 14:41 ` Gregory Price
2025-10-16 11:48 ` Yiannis Nikolakopoulos
2025-09-25 15:00 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-09-25 15:08 ` Gregory Price
2025-09-25 15:18 ` Gregory Price
2025-09-25 15:24 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-09-25 16:06 ` Gregory Price [this message]
2025-09-25 17:23 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-09-25 19:02 ` Gregory Price
2025-10-01 7:22 ` Gregory Price
2025-10-17 9:53 ` Yiannis Nikolakopoulos
2025-10-17 14:15 ` Gregory Price
2025-10-17 14:36 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-10-17 14:59 ` Gregory Price
2025-10-20 14:05 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-10-21 18:52 ` Gregory Price
2025-10-21 18:57 ` Gregory Price
2025-10-22 9:09 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-10-22 15:05 ` Gregory Price
2025-10-23 15:29 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-10-16 16:16 ` Yiannis Nikolakopoulos
2025-10-20 14:23 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-10-20 15:05 ` Gregory Price
2025-10-08 17:59 ` Vinicius Petrucci
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