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From: Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	Sidhartha Kumar <sidhartha.kumar@oracle.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	rcu@vger.kernel.org, maple-tree@lists.infradead.org,
	"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 04/23] slab: add sheaf support for batching kfree_rcu() operations
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2025 15:47:34 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aMz8hk3lrWiPQYnw@harry> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <40461105-a344-444f-834b-9559b6644710@suse.cz>

On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 10:09:34AM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 9/17/25 16:14, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> > On 9/17/25 15:34, Harry Yoo wrote:
> >> On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 03:21:31PM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> >>> On 9/17/25 15:07, Harry Yoo wrote:
> >>> > On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 02:05:49PM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> >>> >> On 9/17/25 13:32, Harry Yoo wrote:
> >>> >> > On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 11:55:10AM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> >>> >> >> On 9/17/25 10:30, Harry Yoo wrote:
> >>> >> >> > On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 10:01:06AM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> >>> >> >> >> +				sfw->skip = true;
> >>> >> >> >> +				continue;
> >>> >> >> >> +			}
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> +			INIT_WORK(&sfw->work, flush_rcu_sheaf);
> >>> >> >> >> +			sfw->skip = false;
> >>> >> >> >> +			sfw->s = s;
> >>> >> >> >> +			queue_work_on(cpu, flushwq, &sfw->work);
> >>> >> >> >> +			flushed = true;
> >>> >> >> >> +		}
> >>> >> >> >> +
> >>> >> >> >> +		for_each_online_cpu(cpu) {
> >>> >> >> >> +			sfw = &per_cpu(slub_flush, cpu);
> >>> >> >> >> +			if (sfw->skip)
> >>> >> >> >> +				continue;
> >>> >> >> >> +			flush_work(&sfw->work);
> >>> >> >> >> +		}
> >>> >> >> >> +
> >>> >> >> >> +		mutex_unlock(&flush_lock);
> >>> >> >> >> +	}
> >>> >> >> >> +
> >>> >> >> >> +	mutex_unlock(&slab_mutex);
> >>> >> >> >> +	cpus_read_unlock();
> >>> >> >> >> +
> >>> >> >> >> +	if (flushed)
> >>> >> >> >> +		rcu_barrier();
> >>> >> >> > 
> >>> >> >> > I think we need to call rcu_barrier() even if flushed == false?
> >>> >> >> > 
> >>> >> >> > Maybe a kvfree_rcu()'d object was already waiting for the rcu callback to
> >>> >> >> > be processed before flush_all_rcu_sheaves() is called, and
> >>> >> >> > in flush_all_rcu_sheaves() we skipped all (cache, cpu) pairs,
> >>> >> >> > so flushed == false but the rcu callback isn't processed yet
> >>> >> >> > by the end of the function?
> >>> >> >> > 
> >>> >> >> > That sounds like a very unlikely to happen in a realistic scenario,
> >>> >> >> > but still possible...
> >>> >> >> 
> >>> >> >> Yes also good point, will flush unconditionally.
> >>> >> >> 
> >>> >> >> Maybe in __kfree_rcu_sheaf() I should also move the call_rcu(...) before
> >>> >> >> local_unlock().
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> So we don't end up seeing a NULL pcs->rcu_free in
> >>> >> >> flush_all_rcu_sheaves() because __kfree_rcu_sheaf() already set it to NULL,
> >>> >> >> but didn't yet do the call_rcu() as it got preempted after local_unlock().
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > Makes sense to me.
> >>> > 
> >>> > Wait, I'm confused.
> >>> > 
> >>> > I think the caller of kvfree_rcu_barrier() should make sure that it's invoked
> >>> > only after a kvfree_rcu(X, rhs) call has returned, if the caller expects
> >>> > the object X to be freed before kvfree_rcu_barrier() returns?
> >>> 
> >>> Hmm, the caller of kvfree_rcu(X, rhs) might have returned without filling up
> >>> the rcu_sheaf fully and thus without submitting it to call_rcu(), then
> >>> migrated to another cpu. Then it calls kvfree_rcu_barrier() while another
> >>> unrelated kvfree_rcu(X, rhs) call on the previous cpu is for the same
> >>> kmem_cache (kvfree_rcu_barrier() is not only for cache destruction), fills
> >>> up the rcu_sheaf fully and is about to call_rcu() on it. And since that
> >>> sheaf also contains the object X, we should make sure that is flushed.
> >> 
> >> I was going to say "but we queue and wait for the flushing work to
> >> complete, so the sheaf containing object X should be flushed?"
> >> 
> >> But nah, that's true only if we see pcs->rcu_free != NULL in
> >> flush_all_rcu_sheaves().
> >> 
> >> You are right...
> >> 
> >> Hmm, maybe it's simpler to fix this by never skipping queueing the work
> >> even when pcs->rcu_sheaf == NULL?
> > 
> > I guess it's simpler, yeah.
> 
> So what about this? The unconditional queueing should cover all races with
> __kfree_rcu_sheaf() so there's just unconditional rcu_barrier() in the end.
> 
> From 0722b29fa1625b31c05d659d1d988ec882247b38 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2025 14:59:46 +0200
> Subject: [PATCH] slab: add sheaf support for batching kfree_rcu() operations
> 
> Extend the sheaf infrastructure for more efficient kfree_rcu() handling.
> For caches with sheaves, on each cpu maintain a rcu_free sheaf in
> addition to main and spare sheaves.
> 
> kfree_rcu() operations will try to put objects on this sheaf. Once full,
> the sheaf is detached and submitted to call_rcu() with a handler that
> will try to put it in the barn, or flush to slab pages using bulk free,
> when the barn is full. Then a new empty sheaf must be obtained to put
> more objects there.
> 
> It's possible that no free sheaves are available to use for a new
> rcu_free sheaf, and the allocation in kfree_rcu() context can only use
> GFP_NOWAIT and thus may fail. In that case, fall back to the existing
> kfree_rcu() implementation.
> 
> Expected advantages:
> - batching the kfree_rcu() operations, that could eventually replace the
>   existing batching
> - sheaves can be reused for allocations via barn instead of being
>   flushed to slabs, which is more efficient
>   - this includes cases where only some cpus are allowed to process rcu
>     callbacks (Android)
> 
> Possible disadvantage:
> - objects might be waiting for more than their grace period (it is
>   determined by the last object freed into the sheaf), increasing memory
>   usage - but the existing batching does that too.
> 
> Only implement this for CONFIG_KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED as the tiny
> implementation favors smaller memory footprint over performance.
> 
> Also for now skip the usage of rcu sheaf for CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT as the
> contexts where kfree_rcu() is called might not be compatible with taking
> a barn spinlock or a GFP_NOWAIT allocation of a new sheaf taking a
> spinlock - the current kfree_rcu() implementation avoids doing that.
> 
> Teach kvfree_rcu_barrier() to flush all rcu_free sheaves from all caches
> that have them. This is not a cheap operation, but the barrier usage is
> rare - currently kmem_cache_destroy() or on module unload.
> 
> Add CONFIG_SLUB_STATS counters free_rcu_sheaf and free_rcu_sheaf_fail to
> count how many kfree_rcu() used the rcu_free sheaf successfully and how
> many had to fall back to the existing implementation.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
> ---

Looks good to me,
Reviewed-by: Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>

with a nit:

> +bool __kfree_rcu_sheaf(struct kmem_cache *s, void *obj)
> +{
> +	struct slub_percpu_sheaves *pcs;
> +	struct slab_sheaf *rcu_sheaf;
> +
> +	if (!local_trylock(&s->cpu_sheaves->lock))
> +		goto fail;
> +
> +	pcs = this_cpu_ptr(s->cpu_sheaves);
> +
> +	if (unlikely(!pcs->rcu_free)) {
> +
> +		struct slab_sheaf *empty;
> +		struct node_barn *barn;
> +
> +		if (pcs->spare && pcs->spare->size == 0) {
> +			pcs->rcu_free = pcs->spare;
> +			pcs->spare = NULL;
> +			goto do_free;
> +		}
> +
> +		barn = get_barn(s);
> +
> +		empty = barn_get_empty_sheaf(barn);
> +
> +		if (empty) {
> +			pcs->rcu_free = empty;
> +			goto do_free;
> +		}
> +
> +		local_unlock(&s->cpu_sheaves->lock);
> +
> +		empty = alloc_empty_sheaf(s, GFP_NOWAIT);
> +
> +		if (!empty)
> +			goto fail;
> +
> +		if (!local_trylock(&s->cpu_sheaves->lock)) {
> +			barn_put_empty_sheaf(barn, empty);
> +			goto fail;
> +		}
> +
> +		pcs = this_cpu_ptr(s->cpu_sheaves);
> +
> +		if (unlikely(pcs->rcu_free))
> +			barn_put_empty_sheaf(barn, empty);
> +		else
> +			pcs->rcu_free = empty;
> +	}
> +
> +do_free:
> +
> +	rcu_sheaf = pcs->rcu_free;
> +
> +	rcu_sheaf->objects[rcu_sheaf->size++] = obj;
> +
> +	if (likely(rcu_sheaf->size < s->sheaf_capacity))
> +		rcu_sheaf = NULL;
> +	else
> +		pcs->rcu_free = NULL;
> +
> +	/*
> +	 * we flush before local_unlock to make sure a racing
> +	 * flush_all_rcu_sheaves() doesn't miss this sheaf
> +	 */
> +	if (rcu_sheaf)
> +		call_rcu(&rcu_sheaf->rcu_head, rcu_free_sheaf);

nit: now we don't have to put this inside local_lock()~local_unlock()?

-- 
Cheers,
Harry / Hyeonggon

> +	local_unlock(&s->cpu_sheaves->lock);
> +
> +	stat(s, FREE_RCU_SHEAF);
> +	return true;
> +
> +fail:
> +	stat(s, FREE_RCU_SHEAF_FAIL);
> +	return false;
> +}


  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-19  6:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-10  8:01 [PATCH v8 00/23] SLUB percpu sheaves Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-10  8:01 ` [PATCH v8 01/23] locking/local_lock: Expose dep_map in local_trylock_t Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-24 16:49   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10  8:01 ` [PATCH v8 02/23] slab: simplify init_kmem_cache_nodes() error handling Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-24 16:52   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10  8:01 ` [PATCH v8 03/23] slab: add opt-in caching layer of percpu sheaves Vlastimil Babka
2025-12-02  8:48   ` [PATCH] slub: add barn_get_full_sheaf() and refine empty-main sheaf Hao Li
2025-12-02  8:55     ` Hao Li
2025-12-02  9:00   ` slub: add barn_get_full_sheaf() and refine empty-main sheaf replacement Hao Li
2025-12-03  5:46     ` Harry Yoo
2025-12-03 11:15       ` Hao Li
2025-09-10  8:01 ` [PATCH v8 04/23] slab: add sheaf support for batching kfree_rcu() operations Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-12  0:38   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-09-12  7:03     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-17  8:30   ` Harry Yoo
2025-09-17  9:55     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-17 11:32       ` Harry Yoo
2025-09-17 12:05         ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-17 13:07           ` Harry Yoo
2025-09-17 13:21             ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-17 13:34               ` Harry Yoo
2025-09-17 14:14                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-18  8:09                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-19  6:47                     ` Harry Yoo [this message]
2025-09-19  7:02                       ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-19  8:59                         ` Harry Yoo
2025-09-25  4:35                     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-25  8:52                       ` Harry Yoo
2025-09-25 13:38                         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-26 10:08                       ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-26 15:41                         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-17 11:36       ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-09-17 12:13         ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-31 21:32   ` Daniel Gomez
2025-11-03  3:17     ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-05 11:25       ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-11-27 14:00         ` Daniel Gomez
2025-11-27 19:29           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-11-28 11:37             ` [PATCH V1] mm/slab: introduce kvfree_rcu_barrier_on_cache() for cache destruction Harry Yoo
2025-11-28 12:22               ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-28 12:38               ` Daniel Gomez
2025-12-02  9:29               ` Jon Hunter
2025-12-02 10:18                 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-27 11:38     ` [PATCH v8 04/23] slab: add sheaf support for batching kfree_rcu() operations Jon Hunter
2025-11-27 11:50       ` Jon Hunter
2025-11-27 12:33       ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-27 12:48         ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-28  8:57           ` Jon Hunter
2025-12-01  6:55             ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-27 13:18       ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-11-28  8:59         ` Jon Hunter
2025-09-10  8:01 ` [PATCH v8 05/23] slab: sheaf prefilling for guaranteed allocations Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-10  8:01 ` [PATCH v8 06/23] slab: determine barn status racily outside of lock Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-10  8:01 ` [PATCH v8 07/23] slab: skip percpu sheaves for remote object freeing Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-25 16:14   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10  8:01 ` [PATCH v8 08/23] slab: allow NUMA restricted allocations to use percpu sheaves Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-25 16:27   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10  8:01 ` [PATCH v8 09/23] maple_tree: remove redundant __GFP_NOWARN Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-10  8:01 ` [PATCH v8 10/23] tools/testing/vma: clean up stubs in vma_internal.h Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-10  8:01 ` [PATCH v8 11/23] maple_tree: Drop bulk insert support Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-25 16:38   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10  8:01 ` [PATCH v8 12/23] tools/testing/vma: Implement vm_refcnt reset Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-25 16:38   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10  8:01 ` [PATCH v8 13/23] tools/testing: Add support for changes to slab for sheaves Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-26 23:28   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10  8:01 ` [PATCH v8 14/23] mm, vma: use percpu sheaves for vm_area_struct cache Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-10  8:01 ` [PATCH v8 15/23] maple_tree: use percpu sheaves for maple_node_cache Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-12  2:20   ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-10-16 15:16   ` D, Suneeth
2025-10-16 16:15     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-17 18:26       ` D, Suneeth
2025-09-10  8:01 ` [PATCH v8 16/23] tools/testing: include maple-shim.c in maple.c Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-26 23:45   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10  8:01 ` [PATCH v8 17/23] testing/radix-tree/maple: Hack around kfree_rcu not existing Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-26 23:53   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10  8:01 ` [PATCH v8 18/23] maple_tree: Use kfree_rcu in ma_free_rcu Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-17 11:46   ` Harry Yoo
2025-09-27  0:05     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10  8:01 ` [PATCH v8 19/23] maple_tree: Replace mt_free_one() with kfree() Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-27  0:06   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10  8:01 ` [PATCH v8 20/23] tools/testing: Add support for prefilled slab sheafs Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-27  0:28   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10  8:01 ` [PATCH v8 21/23] maple_tree: Prefilled sheaf conversion and testing Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-27  1:08   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-29  7:30     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-29 16:51       ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-09-10  8:01 ` [PATCH v8 22/23] maple_tree: Add single node allocation support to maple state Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-27  1:17   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-29  7:39     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-10  8:01 ` [PATCH v8 23/23] maple_tree: Convert forking to use the sheaf interface Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-07  6:34 ` [PATCH v8 00/23] SLUB percpu sheaves Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-07  8:03   ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-08  6:04     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-15  8:32       ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-22  6:47         ` Christoph Hellwig

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