From: Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.org>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
Sidhartha Kumar <sidhartha.kumar@oracle.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
rcu@vger.kernel.org, maple-tree@lists.infradead.org,
"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 04/23] slab: add sheaf support for batching kfree_rcu() operations
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2025 22:34:10 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aMq40h5iOjj8K7cc@hyeyoo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bf8b4741-1025-4cc8-b9ed-5b566bdcb2d7@suse.cz>
On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 03:21:31PM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 9/17/25 15:07, Harry Yoo wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 02:05:49PM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> >> On 9/17/25 13:32, Harry Yoo wrote:
> >> > On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 11:55:10AM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> >> >> On 9/17/25 10:30, Harry Yoo wrote:
> >> >> > On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 10:01:06AM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> >> >> >> + sfw->skip = true;
> >> >> >> + continue;
> >> >> >> + }
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> + INIT_WORK(&sfw->work, flush_rcu_sheaf);
> >> >> >> + sfw->skip = false;
> >> >> >> + sfw->s = s;
> >> >> >> + queue_work_on(cpu, flushwq, &sfw->work);
> >> >> >> + flushed = true;
> >> >> >> + }
> >> >> >> +
> >> >> >> + for_each_online_cpu(cpu) {
> >> >> >> + sfw = &per_cpu(slub_flush, cpu);
> >> >> >> + if (sfw->skip)
> >> >> >> + continue;
> >> >> >> + flush_work(&sfw->work);
> >> >> >> + }
> >> >> >> +
> >> >> >> + mutex_unlock(&flush_lock);
> >> >> >> + }
> >> >> >> +
> >> >> >> + mutex_unlock(&slab_mutex);
> >> >> >> + cpus_read_unlock();
> >> >> >> +
> >> >> >> + if (flushed)
> >> >> >> + rcu_barrier();
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I think we need to call rcu_barrier() even if flushed == false?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Maybe a kvfree_rcu()'d object was already waiting for the rcu callback to
> >> >> > be processed before flush_all_rcu_sheaves() is called, and
> >> >> > in flush_all_rcu_sheaves() we skipped all (cache, cpu) pairs,
> >> >> > so flushed == false but the rcu callback isn't processed yet
> >> >> > by the end of the function?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > That sounds like a very unlikely to happen in a realistic scenario,
> >> >> > but still possible...
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes also good point, will flush unconditionally.
> >> >>
> >> >> Maybe in __kfree_rcu_sheaf() I should also move the call_rcu(...) before
> >> >> local_unlock().
> >> >>
> >> >> So we don't end up seeing a NULL pcs->rcu_free in
> >> >> flush_all_rcu_sheaves() because __kfree_rcu_sheaf() already set it to NULL,
> >> >> but didn't yet do the call_rcu() as it got preempted after local_unlock().
> >> >
> >> > Makes sense to me.
> >
> > Wait, I'm confused.
> >
> > I think the caller of kvfree_rcu_barrier() should make sure that it's invoked
> > only after a kvfree_rcu(X, rhs) call has returned, if the caller expects
> > the object X to be freed before kvfree_rcu_barrier() returns?
>
> Hmm, the caller of kvfree_rcu(X, rhs) might have returned without filling up
> the rcu_sheaf fully and thus without submitting it to call_rcu(), then
> migrated to another cpu. Then it calls kvfree_rcu_barrier() while another
> unrelated kvfree_rcu(X, rhs) call on the previous cpu is for the same
> kmem_cache (kvfree_rcu_barrier() is not only for cache destruction), fills
> up the rcu_sheaf fully and is about to call_rcu() on it. And since that
> sheaf also contains the object X, we should make sure that is flushed.
I was going to say "but we queue and wait for the flushing work to
complete, so the sheaf containing object X should be flushed?"
But nah, that's true only if we see pcs->rcu_free != NULL in
flush_all_rcu_sheaves().
You are right...
Hmm, maybe it's simpler to fix this by never skipping queueing the work
even when pcs->rcu_sheaf == NULL?
> > IOW if flush_all_rcu_sheaves() is called while __kfree_rcu_sheaf(s, X) was
> > running on another CPU, we don't have to guarantee that
> > flush_all_rcu_sheaves() returns after the object X is freed?
> >
> >> >> But then rcu_barrier() itself probably won't mean we make sure such cpus
> >> >> finished the local_locked section, if we didn't queue work on them. So maybe
> >> >> we need synchronize_rcu()?
> >
> > So... we don't need a synchronize_rcu() then?
> >
> > Or my brain started malfunctioning again :D
--
Cheers,
Harry / Hyeonggon
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-17 13:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-10 8:01 [PATCH v8 00/23] SLUB percpu sheaves Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 01/23] locking/local_lock: Expose dep_map in local_trylock_t Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-24 16:49 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 02/23] slab: simplify init_kmem_cache_nodes() error handling Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-24 16:52 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 03/23] slab: add opt-in caching layer of percpu sheaves Vlastimil Babka
2025-12-02 8:48 ` [PATCH] slub: add barn_get_full_sheaf() and refine empty-main sheaf Hao Li
2025-12-02 8:55 ` Hao Li
2025-12-02 9:00 ` slub: add barn_get_full_sheaf() and refine empty-main sheaf replacement Hao Li
2025-12-03 5:46 ` Harry Yoo
2025-12-03 11:15 ` Hao Li
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 04/23] slab: add sheaf support for batching kfree_rcu() operations Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-12 0:38 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-09-12 7:03 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-17 8:30 ` Harry Yoo
2025-09-17 9:55 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-17 11:32 ` Harry Yoo
2025-09-17 12:05 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-17 13:07 ` Harry Yoo
2025-09-17 13:21 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-17 13:34 ` Harry Yoo [this message]
2025-09-17 14:14 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-18 8:09 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-19 6:47 ` Harry Yoo
2025-09-19 7:02 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-19 8:59 ` Harry Yoo
2025-09-25 4:35 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-25 8:52 ` Harry Yoo
2025-09-25 13:38 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-26 10:08 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-26 15:41 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-17 11:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-09-17 12:13 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-31 21:32 ` Daniel Gomez
2025-11-03 3:17 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-05 11:25 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-11-27 14:00 ` Daniel Gomez
2025-11-27 19:29 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-11-28 11:37 ` [PATCH V1] mm/slab: introduce kvfree_rcu_barrier_on_cache() for cache destruction Harry Yoo
2025-11-28 12:22 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-28 12:38 ` Daniel Gomez
2025-12-02 9:29 ` Jon Hunter
2025-12-02 10:18 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-27 11:38 ` [PATCH v8 04/23] slab: add sheaf support for batching kfree_rcu() operations Jon Hunter
2025-11-27 11:50 ` Jon Hunter
2025-11-27 12:33 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-27 12:48 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-28 8:57 ` Jon Hunter
2025-12-01 6:55 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-27 13:18 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-11-28 8:59 ` Jon Hunter
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 05/23] slab: sheaf prefilling for guaranteed allocations Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 06/23] slab: determine barn status racily outside of lock Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 07/23] slab: skip percpu sheaves for remote object freeing Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-25 16:14 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 08/23] slab: allow NUMA restricted allocations to use percpu sheaves Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-25 16:27 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 09/23] maple_tree: remove redundant __GFP_NOWARN Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 10/23] tools/testing/vma: clean up stubs in vma_internal.h Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 11/23] maple_tree: Drop bulk insert support Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-25 16:38 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 12/23] tools/testing/vma: Implement vm_refcnt reset Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-25 16:38 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 13/23] tools/testing: Add support for changes to slab for sheaves Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-26 23:28 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 14/23] mm, vma: use percpu sheaves for vm_area_struct cache Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 15/23] maple_tree: use percpu sheaves for maple_node_cache Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-12 2:20 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-10-16 15:16 ` D, Suneeth
2025-10-16 16:15 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-17 18:26 ` D, Suneeth
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 16/23] tools/testing: include maple-shim.c in maple.c Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-26 23:45 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 17/23] testing/radix-tree/maple: Hack around kfree_rcu not existing Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-26 23:53 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 18/23] maple_tree: Use kfree_rcu in ma_free_rcu Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-17 11:46 ` Harry Yoo
2025-09-27 0:05 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 19/23] maple_tree: Replace mt_free_one() with kfree() Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-27 0:06 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 20/23] tools/testing: Add support for prefilled slab sheafs Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-27 0:28 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 21/23] maple_tree: Prefilled sheaf conversion and testing Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-27 1:08 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-29 7:30 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-29 16:51 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 22/23] maple_tree: Add single node allocation support to maple state Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-27 1:17 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-29 7:39 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 23/23] maple_tree: Convert forking to use the sheaf interface Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-07 6:34 ` [PATCH v8 00/23] SLUB percpu sheaves Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-07 8:03 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-08 6:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-15 8:32 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-22 6:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
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