From: "Vishal Moola (Oracle)" <vishal.moola@gmail.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: tag kernel stack pages
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2025 10:47:38 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aLsiOvvxhJnTzKO6@fedora> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <84297d37-b766-4cfe-9c3f-bff1cb3cb4a4@redhat.com>
On Thu, Sep 04, 2025 at 12:23:31PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 03.09.25 20:19, Vishal Moola (Oracle) wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 03, 2025 at 09:49:06AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > > [resending my original mail because it might have landed in the spam folder]
> >
> > Ah, indeed the original mail was found in my spam folder. Thanks for
> > resending.
> >
> > > On 20.08.25 22:20, Vishal Moola (Oracle) wrote:
> > > > Currently, we have no way to distinguish a kernel stack page from an
> > > > unidentified page. Being able to track this information can be
> > > > beneficial for optimizing kernel memory usage (i.e. analyzing
> > > > fragmentation, location etc.). Knowing a page is being used for a kernel
> > > > stack gives us more insight about pages that are certainly immovable and
> > > > important to kernel functionality.
> > >
> > > It's a very niche use case. Anything that's not clearly a folio or a
> > > special movable_ops page is certainly immovable. So we can identify
> > > pretty reliable what's movable and what's not.
> > >
> > > Happy to learn how you would want to use that knowledge to reduce
> > > fragmentation. 🙂
> > >
> > > So this reads a bit hand-wavy.
> >
> > My thoughts align with Matthew's response. If we decide "This doesn't add
> > enough value to merge it upstream" thats fine by me.
> >
> > Otherwise if we think this is useful, I can respin this with your
> > suggestion below.
>
> As raised in my other mail, I assume there is no way to just have any stack
> pages in any kernel config marked appropriately (slab allocation
> discussion)?
>
> If so, I prefer to not add it.
I agree, this shouldn't be tied to specific kernel configs. We can leave this
out of tree.
I didn't know a page could only have one type, and trying to handle that
doesn't help explore what we're interested in right now anyway.
> If there is a way to just make it consistent, then no strong opinion from my
> side. Willy is the page-type guard :)
>
> BTW, I was wondering if page-owner could be useful instead.
Thanks for the suggestion, page-owner looks useful for playing around with
different kernel stack allocation methods :)
> --
> Cheers
>
> David / dhildenb
>
prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-05 17:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-20 20:20 Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2025-08-21 12:44 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-02 19:52 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-09-04 10:31 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-03 7:49 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-03 18:19 ` Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2025-09-04 10:23 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-05 17:47 ` Vishal Moola (Oracle) [this message]
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