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From: YoungJun Park <youngjun.park@lge.com>
To: Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>
Cc: "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org, mhocko@kernel.org,
	roman.gushchin@linux.dev, shakeel.butt@linux.dev,
	muchun.song@linux.dev, shikemeng@huaweicloud.com,
	kasong@tencent.com, nphamcs@gmail.com, bhe@redhat.com,
	baohua@kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, gunho.lee@lge.com,
	iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com, taejoon.song@lge.com,
	"Matthew Wilcox" <willy@infradead.org>,
	"David Hildenbrand" <david@redhat.com>,
	"Kairui Song" <ryncsn@gmail.com>, "Wei Xu" <weixugc@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] mm/swap, memcg: Introduce infrastructure for cgroup-based swap priority
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2025 02:51:24 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aL3GHJJ6+elPD7OP@yjaykim-PowerEdge-T330> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAF8kJuNW2kmxKYRE9t8WvSOad9JkLYt0WSAcFOQ9r9=2=XGc9Q@mail.gmail.com>

> On Fri, Sep 5, 2025 at 4:45 PM Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >   - Mask computation: precompute at interface write-time vs runtime
> > >     recomputation. (TBD; preference?)
> >
> > Let's start with runtime. We can have a runtime and cached with
> > generation numbers on the toplevel. Any change will reset the top
> > level general number then the next lookup will drop the cache value
> > and re-evaluate.
>
> Scratch that cache value idea. I found the run time evaluation can be
> very simple and elegant.
> Each memcg just needs to store the tier onoff value for the local
> swap.tiers operation. Also a mask to indicate which of those tiers
> present.
> e.g. bits 0-1: default, on bit 0 and off bit 1
>        bits 2-3: zswap, on bit 2 and off bit3
>        bits 4-6: first custom tier
>        ...
>
> The evaluation of the current tier "memcg" to the parent with the
> default tier shortcut can be:
>
>         onoff = memcg->tiers_onoff;
>         mask = memcg->tiers_mask;
>
>         for (p = memcg->parent; p && !has_default(onoff); p = p->parent) {
>                 merge = mask | p->tiers_mask;
>                 new = merge ^ mask;
>                 onoff |= p->tiers_onoff & new;
>                 mask = merge;
>         }
>         if (onoff & DEFAULT_OFF) {
>                 // default off, look for the on tiers to turn on
>         } else {
>                 // default on, look for the off tiers to turn off
>         }
>
> It is an all bit operation that does not need caching at all. This can
> take advantage of the short cut of the default tier. If the default
> tier overwrite exists, no need to search the parent further.
>
> Chris
>

Hi Chris,

Thanks a lot for the clear code and explanation.

I’ll proceed with the runtime evaluation approach you suggested.  
I was initially leaning toward precomputing at write-time since (1) 
cgroup depth is might be deep, and (2) swap I/O paths are far more frequent than config
writes. Is your preference for runtime for implementation simpleness?
(Any other reasons I don't know?)

Thanks again

Best Regards
Youngjun Park


  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-07 17:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-16 20:20 [PATCH 0/4] mm/swap, memcg: Support per-cgroup swap device priorities Youngjun Park
2025-07-16 20:20 ` [PATCH 1/4] mm/swap, memcg: Introduce infrastructure for cgroup-based swap priority Youngjun Park
2025-07-17 11:20   ` kernel test robot
2025-07-22 14:09     ` YoungJun Park
2025-07-18 17:08   ` kernel test robot
2025-07-22 14:11     ` YoungJun Park
2025-07-21 15:13   ` kernel test robot
2025-07-22 14:14     ` YoungJun Park
2025-07-22  8:41   ` Michal Koutný
2025-07-22 14:05     ` YoungJun Park
2025-07-22 18:41       ` YoungJun Park
2025-08-14 14:03         ` Michal Koutný
2025-08-15 15:10           ` Chris Li
2025-08-16 17:21             ` YoungJun Park
2025-08-16 19:15               ` Chris Li
2025-08-19 10:12                 ` YoungJun Park
2025-08-20  0:52                   ` Chris Li
2025-08-20 14:39                     ` YoungJun Park
2025-08-21 20:39                       ` Chris Li
2025-08-22  5:45                         ` YoungJun Park
2025-08-22 16:48                           ` Chris Li
2025-08-24 14:19                             ` YoungJun Park
     [not found]                             ` <aKsAES4cXWbDG1xn@yjaykim-PowerEdge-T330>
2025-08-26  8:19                               ` Chris Li
2025-08-26 12:57                                 ` YoungJun Park
2025-08-26 14:30                                   ` Chris Li
2025-08-30  4:05                                     ` YoungJun Park
2025-08-30  7:13                                       ` Chris Li
2025-08-31 13:53                                         ` YoungJun Park
2025-08-31 16:45                                           ` Chris Li
2025-09-01 16:03                                             ` YoungJun Park
2025-09-01 16:06                                             ` YoungJun Park
2025-09-01 22:40                                               ` Chris Li
2025-09-03  9:32                                                 ` Chris Li
2025-09-03 10:18                                                   ` YoungJun Park
2025-09-05  6:30                                                 ` YoungJun Park
2025-09-05 23:45                                                   ` Chris Li
2025-09-06 12:56                                                     ` Chris Li
2025-09-07 17:51                                                       ` YoungJun Park [this message]
2025-09-10  0:26                                                         ` Chris Li
2025-09-07 17:39                                                     ` YoungJun Park
2025-09-10  0:14                                                       ` Chris Li
2025-09-12 15:39                                                         ` YoungJun Park
2025-08-16 16:41           ` YoungJun Park
2025-07-16 20:20 ` [PATCH 2/4] mm: swap: Apply per-cgroup swap priority mechanism to swap layer Youngjun Park
2025-07-16 20:20 ` [PATCH 3/4] mm: memcg: Add swap cgroup priority inheritance mechanism Youngjun Park
2025-07-16 20:20 ` [PATCH 4/4] mm: swap: Per-cgroup per-CPU swap device cache with shared clusters Youngjun Park
2025-07-22 17:44   ` Kairui Song
2025-07-22 18:30     ` YoungJun Park

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