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From: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: "Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)" <urezki@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/8] mm/vmalloc: Support non-blocking GFP flags in __vmalloc_area_node()
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2025 13:54:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aJXlXzxDUo_i3c8u@pc636> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aJST7TnermwROX41@tiehlicka>

On Thu, Aug 07, 2025 at 01:54:21PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Thu 07-08-25 09:58:09, Uladzislau Rezki wrote:
> > This patch makes __vmalloc_area_node() to correctly handle non-blocking
> > allocation requests, such as GFP_ATOMIC and GFP_NOWAIT. Main changes:
> > 
> > - Add a __GFP_HIGHMEM to gfp_mask only for blocking requests
> >   if there are no DMA constraints.
> 
> This begs for a more explanation. Why does __GFP_HIGHMEM matters? I
> suspect this is due to kmapping of those pages but that could be done in
> an atomic way. But in practice I do not think we really care about
> highmem all that much for vmalloc. The vmalloc space is really tiny for
> 32b systems where highmem matters and failing vmalloc allocations due to
> lack is of __GFP_HIGHMEM is hard to consider important if relevant at
> all.
> 
Thank you for this note. Yes, __GFP_HIGHMEM is about 32 bit systems.
Initially, in the RFC series, during testing i saw some incompatibility
kernel splats when use together with non-blocking flags.

Whereas i do not see it anymore and now. It looks like i messed up something
when testing pre-RFC series.

I will not touch it. I mean i will keep it as it used to be, i.e. apply
it if no (GFP_DMA | GFP_DMA32).

> > - vmap_page_range() is wrapped by memalloc_noreclaim_save/restore()
> >   to avoid memory reclaim related operations that could sleep during
> >   page table setup or mapping pages.
> > 
> > This is particularly important for page table allocations that
> > internally use GFP_PGTABLE_KERNEL, which may sleep unless such
> > scope restrictions are applied. For example:
> > 
> > <snip>
> > __pte_alloc_kernel()
> >     pte_alloc_one_kernel(&init_mm);
> >         pagetable_alloc_noprof(GFP_PGTABLE_KERNEL & ~__GFP_HIGHMEM, 0);
> > <snip>
> 
> As I've said in several occations, I am not entirely happy about this
> approach because it doesn't really guarantee atomicty. If any
> architecture decides to use some sleeping locking down that path then
> the whole thing just blows up. On the other hand this is mostly a
> theoretical concern at this stage and this is a feature people have
> been asking for a long time (especially from kvmalloc side) so better
> good than perfect that his.
> 
I agree with it. Unfortunately i can not control the PTE kernel allocation
layer.

>
> That being said, you are missing __kvmalloc_node_noprof,
> __vmalloc_node_range_noprof (and maybe some more places) documentation
> update.
> 
I would like to fix documentation in separate patch. That was deliberately.

> > Note: in most cases, PTE entries are established only up to the level
> > required by current vmap space usage, meaning the page tables are typically
> > fully populated during the mapping process.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Uladzislau Rezki (Sony) <urezki@gmail.com>
> 
> With the doc part fixed
> Acked-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
> Thanks!
Thanks! Applied.

--
Uladzislau Rezki


  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-08 11:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-07  7:58 [PATCH 0/8] __vmalloc() and no-block support Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2025-08-07  7:58 ` [PATCH 1/8] lib/test_vmalloc: add no_block_alloc_test case Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2025-08-07  7:58 ` [PATCH 2/8] lib/test_vmalloc: Remove xfail condition check Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2025-08-07  7:58 ` [PATCH 3/8] mm/vmalloc: Support non-blocking GFP flags in alloc_vmap_area() Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2025-08-07 11:20   ` Michal Hocko
2025-08-08  9:59     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-08-18  2:11   ` Baoquan He
2025-08-07  7:58 ` [PATCH 4/8] mm/vmalloc: Remove cond_resched() in vm_area_alloc_pages() Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2025-08-07 11:22   ` Michal Hocko
2025-08-08 10:08     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-08-18  2:14   ` Baoquan He
2025-08-07  7:58 ` [PATCH 5/8] mm/kasan, mm/vmalloc: Respect GFP flags in kasan_populate_vmalloc() Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2025-08-07 16:05   ` Andrey Ryabinin
2025-08-08 10:18     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-08-07  7:58 ` [PATCH 6/8] mm/vmalloc: Defer freeing partly initialized vm_struct Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2025-08-07 11:25   ` Michal Hocko
2025-08-08 10:37     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-08-18  4:21   ` Baoquan He
2025-08-18 13:02     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-08-19  8:56       ` Baoquan He
2025-08-19  9:20         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-08-07  7:58 ` [PATCH 7/8] mm/vmalloc: Support non-blocking GFP flags in __vmalloc_area_node() Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2025-08-07 11:54   ` Michal Hocko
2025-08-08 11:54     ` Uladzislau Rezki [this message]
2025-08-18  4:35   ` Baoquan He
2025-08-18 13:08     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-08-19  8:46       ` Baoquan He
2025-08-07  7:58 ` [PATCH 8/8] mm: Drop __GFP_DIRECT_RECLAIM flag if PF_MEMALLOC is set Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2025-08-07 11:58   ` Michal Hocko
2025-08-08 13:12     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-08-08 14:16       ` Michal Hocko
2025-08-08 16:56         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-08-07 11:01 ` [PATCH 0/8] __vmalloc() and no-block support Marco Elver
2025-08-08  8:48   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-08-23  9:35     ` Uladzislau Rezki

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